Elite energy 35 or new breed eclipse?
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Which ever one feel best .if both feel good I like a longer axle to axle with a long brace hight to hide my flaws .just my opinion
huntforme7909
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dhpro":37x1zbrq said:
I agree.....a longer axle to axle will hide a lot of flaws and are a lot more forgiving.......but in the end I would still go with which one feels the best and that I am most comfortable with....
PillsburyDoughboy
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I shot the Elite bows for the first time at ATA and was highly impressed. I now GET the whole shoot ability of the bow that they are selling you on the bow.Tru2Life":5se7wkzi said:
When you hold the bow back its like you are not holding back anything. No jumpy cams and you practically have to push the string forward to get the cam to go forward.
Then here lies the rub. You sacrifice some speed when you start comparing specs for the wonderful feature. So you just have to weigh the pros and cons and decide for yourself.
Im a short draw shooter and need all the help I can get in the speed department so I am looking at gaining speed not going backwards. Or else I would pull the string on a Elite tomorrow. The new Impulse is certainly a step in that direction and I did not notice much difference in the shoot ability of the Impulse VS Energy. I think give it a few more years for Elite to catch up in the speed department and I might just be making the switch.
As to your question?? Shoot as many bows as you can. See which one feels right for you. Let the bow pick you instead of you picking the bow. The one that feels right and shoots right is better than any name brand or specs you can draw up on a catalogue.
I don't own either bow, but have shot the Elite and I loved it. Elite does have a little better warranty, especially if you accidentally break something during a hunt. They will ship a bow to you until you can get yours fixed. http://www.elitearchery.com/warranty/elite-promise
PillsburyDoughboy
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Did not know that about Elite.
I have owned about every major brand out there. Bear, Martin, PSE BowTech just to name a few. I went with Bowtech this last time and have been really pleased with the bow. I was really concerned about the horror stories I have heard about the warranty issues. At the time I purchased it was the best shooting bow and best fitting bow for me and met all my requirements and I have had ZERO issues with it after two years with it other than haveing to replace strings and cables after 4K shots through it.
I like everything I am hearing about Elite. I like their bows. I might just find myself in a Elite in the next few seasons. You never know.
I have owned about every major brand out there. Bear, Martin, PSE BowTech just to name a few. I went with Bowtech this last time and have been really pleased with the bow. I was really concerned about the horror stories I have heard about the warranty issues. At the time I purchased it was the best shooting bow and best fitting bow for me and met all my requirements and I have had ZERO issues with it after two years with it other than haveing to replace strings and cables after 4K shots through it.
I like everything I am hearing about Elite. I like their bows. I might just find myself in a Elite in the next few seasons. You never know.
pb10point
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I have always shot Mathews but I shot a Elite and almost bought one.I really liked it but bought another Mathews because of resale value.
PillsburyDoughboy
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pb10point":8lep6s7q said:
15 years ago they made a name for themselves and have been living off that name, They still make a Great bow but it's not any better than anything else out there and slower than many.
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TNDeerGuy
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I really, really liked my E35 and I still wish I had it at times. I had a E35 and an E32—the E35 was my competition bow and the E32 was my hunting bow. I sold the E35 and went with the Victory for competition and still have the E32. Looking back, I wish I wouldn't have stubborn and done what I should have which was sell the E32 because I shot lights out with the E35. As far as speed, I don't think Elite is that far off from anyone else—they are right there with them. When I switched from Mathews to Elite I was shooting the Reezen 7.0 (Mathews fastest solo cam 335 ibo) for hunting because it is a tack driver. I did change arrows which are 12gr lighter than the shafts I was using on the Reezen, but I'm pulling 7lbs less weight and shooting 294fps. The Reezen was pulling 70# on a 28.5" draw and shooting a 410gr arrow@284fps, with the E35 on a 28.5"draw it was shooting a 398gr arrow@294fps.
That is enough about speed—I hate talking about it, because it is worthless subject and I just wanted to throw those real-life numbers out there because they are relevant to the conversation. In my opinion, you cannot go wrong with either bow. Granted I shoot Elites, but it is what I like the best and what I shoot the best—kinda of like, I really prefer Nike. However, if I was going to switch, it would likely be New Breed. I have not shot the Eclipse, but I will tell you what I can about the E35.
The E35 is a binary cam bow, like the Eclipse, and it is a limb stop bow which will give you an absolute rock solid backwall, as previously mentioned. The draw cycle is a smooth constant pull: no valleys, humps or dumps in the cycle—once you get it going back it just comes right back to the wall. Because of the solid wall, you can relax and hold full draw for a longer time than most—especially at a 80% letoff or higher if you adjust it that way. However, the let-off is very adjustable and it can be done by adjusting the limb stops and/or adjusting the cam rotation—this can be done with all Elites and most limb-stop, binary cam bows. I had my Victory sitting at about a 87% letoff—I had it at full draw on the draw board and just took my hand off of the cocking rachet and it just sat there on its own. But I also have had it down to a 57% let-off as well. As far as balanced, the E35 is incredibly well-balanced on its own. Most bows have a tendency to be naturally top heavy and they will roll forward on their own, the E35 will just sit there—that will change as soon as you start putting accessories on there, but it can be easily balanced and stabilized by using a weighted stabilizer system. I have never noticed any hand shock in the E35, but some are more sensitive to hand shock than others, but most people claim they don't feel any as well. The only knock I will give the E35 is the grip, they have corrected it by using the grip design that was on the Victory, so make sure that if you buy one it is of the newer designed E35 that has the Victory grip. It's not that the original E35 grip is bad, it is just different and takes a awhile to learn how to get used to. Most people ended up having to use a high-wrist grip with it, which can cause all kinds of problems in of itself so that is why they changed it to the Victory grip because everyone loves it now! The Elite warranty has already been covered and it is one of the best, if not the best in the industry—it is transferable and they will send you a ready to hunt bow if your on a hunt!
That being said, you need to get out and shoot them for yourself and probably some others just to get the idea of what tickles your fancy and let the bow find you, and not the other way around.
Good luck and I hope this helps.
That is enough about speed—I hate talking about it, because it is worthless subject and I just wanted to throw those real-life numbers out there because they are relevant to the conversation. In my opinion, you cannot go wrong with either bow. Granted I shoot Elites, but it is what I like the best and what I shoot the best—kinda of like, I really prefer Nike. However, if I was going to switch, it would likely be New Breed. I have not shot the Eclipse, but I will tell you what I can about the E35.
The E35 is a binary cam bow, like the Eclipse, and it is a limb stop bow which will give you an absolute rock solid backwall, as previously mentioned. The draw cycle is a smooth constant pull: no valleys, humps or dumps in the cycle—once you get it going back it just comes right back to the wall. Because of the solid wall, you can relax and hold full draw for a longer time than most—especially at a 80% letoff or higher if you adjust it that way. However, the let-off is very adjustable and it can be done by adjusting the limb stops and/or adjusting the cam rotation—this can be done with all Elites and most limb-stop, binary cam bows. I had my Victory sitting at about a 87% letoff—I had it at full draw on the draw board and just took my hand off of the cocking rachet and it just sat there on its own. But I also have had it down to a 57% let-off as well. As far as balanced, the E35 is incredibly well-balanced on its own. Most bows have a tendency to be naturally top heavy and they will roll forward on their own, the E35 will just sit there—that will change as soon as you start putting accessories on there, but it can be easily balanced and stabilized by using a weighted stabilizer system. I have never noticed any hand shock in the E35, but some are more sensitive to hand shock than others, but most people claim they don't feel any as well. The only knock I will give the E35 is the grip, they have corrected it by using the grip design that was on the Victory, so make sure that if you buy one it is of the newer designed E35 that has the Victory grip. It's not that the original E35 grip is bad, it is just different and takes a awhile to learn how to get used to. Most people ended up having to use a high-wrist grip with it, which can cause all kinds of problems in of itself so that is why they changed it to the Victory grip because everyone loves it now! The Elite warranty has already been covered and it is one of the best, if not the best in the industry—it is transferable and they will send you a ready to hunt bow if your on a hunt!
That being said, you need to get out and shoot them for yourself and probably some others just to get the idea of what tickles your fancy and let the bow find you, and not the other way around.
Good luck and I hope this helps.
