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tree_ghost
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He looks very similar to the 10pt I killed last year. He was 152-1/8" That's my guess. Awesome buck!
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double browtine
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Man that is a nice buck. At least 150. Those long beams are impressive.
SilverFox
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Any front pics?
Killer beams, figure he'll be all over 150" gross. Great buck, best of luck with him this fall.
TheLBLman
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That's an impressive rack, especially the beam length,
but don't think he's going to score anything close to what so many are guessing.
Would like to see more pics, different angles, post-velvet shed.
My current guess is a gross score around 142.
Remember, much of the score comes from multiple tine lengths (not the width, not the beam length).
but don't think he's going to score anything close to what so many are guessing.
Would like to see more pics, different angles, post-velvet shed.
My current guess is a gross score around 142.
Remember, much of the score comes from multiple tine lengths (not the width, not the beam length).
10 point, great beams, good brows, and leaning forward tines (always measure better than perceived), 30" of mass, and a conservative 16" spread, is how I settled in at 150" gross. I hope the OP connects and reports back to us.
I have a 10 pt on the wall that has a lot of the same characteristics as this buck ,good mass, with 24 5/8 beams and shorter tines than this buck and only 2" brows that grossed 144" , so I am gonna call him 155", those beams gotta be pushing 27". I was thinking 24-25" beams until I seen the front pic and the fact that they extend as far as the do and still come together like they do is what makes me think they will push 27" if not 28", that is top tier beams anywhere in the country!
TheLBLman":rq1rcu5k said:That's an impressive rack, especially the beam length,
but don't think he's going to score anything close to what so many are guessing.
Would like to see more pics, different angles, post-velvet shed.
My current guess is a gross score around 142.
Remember, much of the score comes from multiple tine lengths (not the width, not the beam length).
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tree_ghost
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Impressive
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My best estimate by the only 2 pics-
per side
Mass- 15"
G1- 3.5"
G2- 7"
G3- 10"
G4- 7.5"
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X2= 86"
inside spread- 14"
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100"
main beams 27.5" x2 =55"
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155" gross is my best guess!
per side
Mass- 15"
G1- 3.5"
G2- 7"
G3- 10"
G4- 7.5"
____________
X2= 86"
inside spread- 14"
_______________
100"
main beams 27.5" x2 =55"
______________________
155" gross is my best guess!
TheLBLman
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Now that there's more to go on . . . . :tu:
He's a magnificent trophy, I'd shoot him in a heartbeat,
and I totally agree those are world-class main beams
Your 2nd (frontal) pic shows more of this buck's mass.
Just based on that single side-pic, this is not as evident.
I'll now up the ante from 142 to 146,
but still believe we're an inch or two short of that 150.
For example, just a slight change in those above measures can knock that down to under 146.
Mass- 14"
G1- 3.25"
G2- 6.5"
G3- 8.5"
G4- 7.0"
____________
X2= 78.5"
inside spread- 14"
_______________
92.5"
main beams 26.5" x2 =53"
______________________
145.5" gross
He's a magnificent trophy, I'd shoot him in a heartbeat,
and I totally agree those are world-class main beams
Your 2nd (frontal) pic shows more of this buck's mass.
Just based on that single side-pic, this is not as evident.
I'll now up the ante from 142 to 146,
but still believe we're an inch or two short of that 150.
For example, just a slight change in those above measures can knock that down to under 146.
Mass- 14"
G1- 3.25"
G2- 6.5"
G3- 8.5"
G4- 7.0"
____________
X2= 78.5"
inside spread- 14"
_______________
92.5"
main beams 26.5" x2 =53"
______________________
145.5" gross
TheLBLman
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Do you have any "history" with this buck, dating back into last or prior years?
Would love to see more pics of him, especially standing beside other bucks.
Would love to see more pics of him, especially standing beside other bucks.
Yes, even more so since he's an East TN buck.tree_ghost":1d9t2j47 said:
tree_ghost
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TheLBLman":3ixb4c2q said:
I have noticed that the OP has some incredible deer for that part of the state. He's definitely doing something right
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This buck is on a friends trail cam who gave me the ok to share here, he has no history with this buck as far as I know! Hopefully I will get my hands on some more pics in the coming weeks! I would love to see him on the ground this fall!!TheLBLman":1uxnx82c said:Do you have any "history" with this buck, dating back into last or prior years?
Would love to see more pics of him, especially standing beside other bucks.
Yes, even more so since he's an East TN buck.tree_ghost":1uxnx82c said:
There has got to be more than 2" diff in his 2s and 3s whatever they measure don't you think?TheLBLman":1b4x7df1 said:Now that there's more to go on . . . . :tu:
He's a magnificent trophy, I'd shoot him in a heartbeat,
and I totally agree those are world-class main beams
Your 2nd (frontal) pic shows more of this buck's mass.
Just based on that single side-pic, this is not as evident.
I'll now up the ante from 142 to 146,
but still believe we're an inch or two short of that 150.
For example, just a slight change in those above measures can knock that down to under 146.
Mass- 14"
G1- 3.25"
G2- 6.5"
G3- 8.5"
G4- 7.0"
____________
X2= 78.5"
inside spread- 14"
_______________
92.5"
main beams 26.5" x2 =53"
______________________
145.5" gross
TheLBLman
Well-Known Member
I think there is likely more than 2" difference in his G2's & 3's,JAY B":1rh8dglx said:
but still likely only about a 2" difference,
especially if the G3's are just a tad less long that what many are presuming.
You are likely providing the better score guess; just giving you mine.
This buck is a unique trophy, I don't care what he scores
Speaking of uniqueness, his G2's & 3's are what some would call bassackards.
Most bucks have longer G2's than 3's. This one has it reversed = more unique.
Also, since the G2's erupt on the main beam closer to the head,
this can make them appear to be shorter than they will measure,
when visibly compared to the G3's.
I was taking that into consideration with that "about" a 2" difference.
That's a very good point!! And it's all in fun, gotta find some way to pass the time till deer season right ! To be honest we will prob never know what he scores once late sept comes around and he finds his rock to climb under during the daylight hours! I know if he walked by me I would not be adding up score in my head, I would be to busy trying to settle myself down enough to take the safety offTheLBLman":nf7x4cdu said:I think there is likely more than 2" difference in his G2's & 3's,JAY B":nf7x4cdu said:
but still likely only about a 2" difference,
especially if the G3's are just a tad less long that what many are presuming.
You are likely providing the better score guess; just giving you mine.
This buck is a unique trophy, I don't care what he scores
Speaking of uniqueness, his G2's & 3's are what some would call bassackards.
Most bucks have longer G2's than 3's. This one has it reversed = more unique.
Also, since the G2's erupt on the main beam closer to the head,
this can make them appear to be shorter than they will measure,
when visibly compared to the G3's.
I was taking that into consideration with that "about" a 2" difference.
TheLBLman
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Honestly, I care very little about what they "score", but I do care how they "look" to me.JAY B":422o4hud said:And it's all in fun, gotta find some way to pass the time till deer season right ! . . . . . I know if he walked by me I would not be adding up score in my head, I would be to busy trying to settle myself down enough to take the safety off
What I "like" most in antlers is "mass",
and that's the one thing even heavily high-graded antlers in TN will typically have on mature bucks, MASS.
But "mass" doesn't do much for "score", typically.
The last mature buck I killed was in Nov 2014 (believed to be 6 1/2).
It was about a year later I "scored" him, although I was quick to measure his basal circumferences (were right at 5").
For me, the best "trophy" antlers are defined by uniqueness and mass, not score,
although I do appreciate it when one that is massive & unique, also scores well.
I'm just happy to go hunting, talk about hunting, run my trail cams, and do some fishing in between.
Going to put doe meat in the freezer to have "enough", and if see a mature buck with decent mass, he goes there too.
Last couple years, I've blown a couple good opportunities, and beyond that, decided to pass on some good bucks which had majorily broken antlers. Just hate it when one I've been watching finally gives me an opportunity, then I notice he's broken off an entire main beam!
A few years ago, I let walk one of the largest antlered mature bucks I've ever seen in TN (honestly believe he would have gross scored in the 170's as a clean mainframe 10-pointer). Had him dead to rights at about 15 yards, rifle in hand, crosshairs on him, then noticed he had broken off an entire main beam, so just watched him walk away. The next year was exciting in looking forward to seeing him again, with both antlers, as I believe he was only 4 1/2 when I gave him a pass.
Since he never showed up on any trail cam pics over a wide area, believe he simply died post-rut. IMO, natural mortality (which includes predation by coyotes) is probably around 40% (in many areas) on 4 1/2-yr-old bucks, and commonly they die in January-February, about the time they shed an antler. Something about the blood smell from a shed antler will cause coyotes to target a specific buck, unfortunately, at a time when that buck may be at his weakest moment and most vulnerable to dogs & coyotes for an entire year.
