.223 for deer in Tn?

[Snake]

Poor shooting is poor shooting, doesn't matter what its with.


I've had them run on lung shots from a 300gr .458" at 1950fps just like with anything else. 45/70 doesn't knock them down any different than anything else I've ever used.


CNS shots drop

Lung/heart shots usually run

I understand but I've knocked more straight down with .300 gr. hollow point 45-70 than any other weapon I've hunted with . I hunt with a Ruger M77 7mm mag now and wouldn't hunt with anything else .

 

[Remi]

I understand but I've knocked more straight down with .300 gr. hollow point 45-70 than any other weapon I've hunted with . I hunt with a Ruger M77 7mm mag now and wouldn't hunt with anything else .

Good deal, that's not been my experience but experiences vary.


I had a Ruger 77 in 7mag and moved it along. It shot good but at the ranges I hunt the only thing I gained was more recoil.


Once I started shooting the shoulder instead of behind it I had more deer drop. I've never had a deer drop on any shot that I didn't break shoulders. I seem to be in the minority on that but so far it's never happened with any cartridge/bullet combo.

 

[Snake]

Good deal, that's not been my experience but experiences vary.


I had a Ruger 77 in 7mag and moved it along. It shot good but at the ranges I hunt the only thing I gained was more recoil.


Once I started shooting the shoulder instead of behind it I had more deer drop. I've never had a deer drop on any shot that I didn't break shoulders. I seem to be in the minority on that but so far it's never happened with any cartridge/bullet combo.

I've had too many bad experiences with shoulder shooting . Bullet deflection and a maimed deer you probably won't find . I'm behind the shoulder and don't care to track aways . I shoot the Winchester Balistic Silvertips other rounds I didn't like in the 7mm mag.

 

[Remi]

I've had too many bad experiences with shoulder shooting . Bullet deflection and a maimed deer you probably won't find . I'm behind the shoulder and don't care to track aways . I shoot the Winchester Balistic Silvertips other rounds I didn't like in the 7mm mag.

My experiences have been different on the shoulders, I've never had a bullet not break them. From 80gr 6mm through 405gr .458's.


I am a ballistic tip fan. I think they're one of the best bullets made for deer and hogs.

 

[Jcalder]

Good deal, that's not been my experience but experiences vary.


I had a Ruger 77 in 7mag and moved it along. It shot good but at the ranges I hunt the only thing I gained was more recoil.


Once I started shooting the shoulder instead of behind it I had more deer drop. I've never had a deer drop on any shot that I didn't break shoulders. I seem to be in the minority on that but so far it's never happened with any cartridge/bullet combo.

People would do much better if they shot something they could manage. But you have those people that only shoot 3 shots a year and think they're good to go. Recoil is not a friend but most will never admit it.

 

[Snake]

My experiences have been different on the shoulders, I've never had a bullet not break them. From 80gr 6mm through 405gr .458's.


I am a ballistic tip fan. I think they're one of the best bullets made for deer and hogs.

Maybe just my unfortunate times but I've lost two bucks I know from shooting them in the shoulder....both by mistake. One in Lewis Co. broke the shoulder I hit but must have missed vitals . We tracked that buck for probably a mile . Came back after lunch and I hunted for him all evening just quad searching...blood just finally clotted up. Shoulder was definitely broke as I seen him good run off bled like a son of a gun for a long way then like I said just clotted up . Another one was with a muzzleloader and found bone little blood but no buck and shoulder was broke . I have no luck shoulder shooting ....don't mind tracking them though But with that said I might try a high shoulder shot if I'm where I think I might have trouble finding a deer .

 

[Remi]

I'm usually in thick and steep, I consider tracking overrated, lol


I like short, quick handling rifles that are accurate so I can plop one through a hole in the brush, if there is one.

 

[DeerMan66]

I've had too many bad experiences with shoulder shooting . Bullet deflection and a maimed deer you probably won't find . I'm behind the shoulder and don't care to track aways . I shoot the Winchester Balistic Silvertips other rounds I didn't like in the 7mm mag.

Try a Federal Premium Nosler Partition. I shoot behind the shoulder as well. The Partition will leave a drain hole with an easily trackable blood trail. Most don't make it out of sight but if they do they are no problem to track.

 

[DeerMan66]

People would do much better if they shot something they could manage. But you have those people that only shoot 3 shots a year and think they're good to go. Recoil is not a friend but most will never admit it.

A Limbsaver recoil pad will solve a lot of the recoil issue.