i think alot of it is where i placed the cam..i seen this group of bucks when we was cuttin corn..saturday night i just threw one up where i been watchin em come in and out of the woods..was too dark to really see anything..this is about 100 acres of the farm that i havent hunted in atleast 4 years..i found a much better site when i went in today and got it..but i doubt i'll put it back in there..a couple of em walked right up too it..but like i said..i think it was just poor cam location on my part