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The first two pictures are from a deer I got pictures of in the last few weeks. The last picture is a deer from last year which I believe is the same deer. Thoughts on the score, age, and same deer?





 
First and last pic may be the same deer. I like the forks on the end of the beams. I had a buck I was after a couple years back like that. I nicknamed him slingshot because the ends of the beams would have been perfect.
 
megalomaniac":20ewf532 said:
. . . . . last pic is def older than 2.5
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Yes he is, but I cannot rule out the 1st pic NOT being 4 1/2 or older.
Last pic may have been taken more into the rut (buck more muscular later) than the mid-October top pic of this year.

1st pic & last pic MAY be different bucks,
but I certainly can't rule out their being the SAME bucks
just based on these pics.
I think it's more likely the 1st pic & 3rd pic are the same buck.
 
I'm pretty sure the first and second picture are the same deer. Look at the left brow tine, they both are long and curl forward.
 
1st and second are the same deer no questions asked. And I believe the last deer is diff. Can't tell much on the spread of first deer and he is lacking some in mass but has a LOT of tine length, especially considering the extra long brow on one side.

I'd go with 3.5 yr old scoring slightly better than 145


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Similar, even very similar antlers, does not necessarily mean "same" buck.

In a given area, it is common for numerous bucks to have antlers more similar than different,
often because they have the same momma.

Not saying all 3 of those pics aren't of the same buck;
just saying there is too little data to ascertain.

It would be nice to see more pics, different angles, known dates of these bucks in question.
 
rooney":1fe79cvw said:
This is the only other one I have
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Without numerous pics, it remains challenging for me to conclude whether one is same or different from another.
However, this last pic above looks a lot like your 2nd pic with your first post.

My take, the very 1st pic in your opening post
"may" be the same buck as the the 3rd pic of your opening post.

I continue to believe that 2nd (middle) pic of your opening post is likely a different buck,
and is the same as your last pic immediately above.

Note the buck in your last pic (and middle pic of first post) not only appears he "may" be a year younger, but his antlers also do not appear as tall nor have as much mass.

One aspect making this challenging is the lack of similar poses, year to year.
Last but not least, last year's pic (3rd on top post) appears to be an older buck than any of this year's pics.

Think we're looking at least 2 different bucks here.
 
TheLBLman":1ixla1vu said:
rooney":1ixla1vu said:
This is the only other one I have
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Without numerous pics, it remains challenging for me to conclude whether one is same or different from another.
However, this last pic above looks a lot like your 2nd pic with your first post.

My take, the very 1st pic in your opening post
"may" be the same buck as the the 3rd pic of your opening post.

I continue to believe that 2nd (middle) pic of your opening post is likely a different buck,
and is the same as your last pic immediately above.

Note the buck in your last pic (and middle pic of first post) not only appears he "may" be a year younger, but his antlers also do not appear as tall nor have as much mass.

One aspect making this challenging is the lack of similar poses, year to year.
Last but not least, last year's pic (3rd on top post) appears to be an older buck than any of this year's pics.

Think we're looking at least 2 different bucks here.
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have you noticed the IDENTICAL brow tine in pics 1,2,4? I understand similar genetics, you see it all the time on particular farms or areas but it's hard to argue that there is any way possible for those to be diff deer. Yes pic number 3 is a diff deer IMO.

And I'm not trying to be argumentative by any means lol

We do agree that there are at least 2 diff deer.


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Let's take a closer look at your deer.. particularly the left side. Start at the base and it's clearly going to measure at least 4.75. You have a browtine coming directly out of the base that will be at least 3.75. Now notice the way the antler cups in and as you go up the beam you'll see the hooker point that almost looks like a brow is actually a 6" or better kicker. Now let's just pretend that G2 is only 10" the G3 is only 9" and the G4 is only 4" Give him a main beam of only 20" with 16 total mass and that antler alone scores 68.75. Okay we'll do the same mass and beam for side two to start out 36" I can't see the brow tine very well so let's call it only 2" the G2 9" G3 10" and the G4 5".... that makes that side 62"

62+68=130
Say he only has a 14" spread and that makes him 144"

Your deer scores at least 150" and is so tall he could easily break 160" with that kicker.
 

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