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bradshaw34

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I shoot a bear element rated to 305 fps, the draw weight is 74#and draw length is 29 in. My arrows are redhead carbon fury 6075 which are 11 grains per inch and 32 inches long and i'm only shooting 247fps. I could stand to cut 3-6 inches of my arrows, how many fps could i pick up by doing that or switching to goldtip arrows which are around 100 grains less when trimmed to fit. THANKS for reading, whats your opinion or scientific fact?
 
That's a heavy shaft. You could stand to lose a about 3 1/2 to 4 inches probably. ibo speeds are got by shooting a bow at 70dw at 30dl, with a total arrow weight of 350 grains.
 
It is possible. But it depends on the bow. Some bows will shoot their advertised speed some won't. It varies a lot.

Most advertised IBO ratings are set with nothing on the string,(i.e., peep sight, kisser, string loop, silencers, etc.). Some manufacturer do leave the weight near the end of the string for a modest gain (i.e., speed buttons, speed balls, etc.). So a hunting rig often times will never be able to duplicate those speeds.
However, some manufacturers test their bows setup as hunting rigs and their customer bows achieve the speeds and even some will surpass the speeds. So, don't rely too heavily on the advertised speeds. If I gave a list of the bows that I have found that will make advertised speeds and the ones that don't, there would be someone else post how full of it I am and they had completely inverse results. So!

If you bow is shooting well, you like the way it shoots and you are able to shoot accurately to your satisfaction. Don't worry about your IBO speed. It is not that important. That arrow at 247fps will shoot through an elk, deer, bear, horse, goat, sheep or anything else in North America.

If you want to shoot faster and nothing else will satisfy you. Then shoot a lighter weight arrow, a lighter weight point, increase your poundage, strip everything off your string, shoot the smallest vanes you can find and go for it. But if you just want to hunt. Shoot what you got and have fun.

But, The IBO standard is, I think 70lb. bow, 350grain total weight on the arrow and 30 inch draw. That is the standard that the manufacturers use to test their bows for comparison, supposedly. By comparison to acheive IBO standards for other weights, it is basically 5grains of arrow weight for ever pound of bow draw weight.
 
Thanks guys, I'm just concerned about speed because i dont want that deer to have time to react. I just want the most out of my bow because I put alot of effort into shooting and striving for perfection when it comes to archery.
 
Have fun. Don't worry so much. If you worry about everything that could go wrong, you will suck the fun out of it.
 
bradshaw34 said:
Thanks guys, I'm just concerned about speed because i dont want that deer to have time to react. I just want the most out of my bow because I put alot of effort into shooting and striving for perfection when it comes to archery.

There's not a bow made that shoots faster than the speed of sound. ;) Get it quiet, and you already have plenty of speed.
 
When you cut down arrows you will stiffen the spine , so you have to be aware of that and how it may affect tuning .
I don't worry about IBO speed and focus on accuracy . A heavier arrow will absorb more shock and be quieter than a light arrow out of the same bow . Deer react to the noise of the bow when they duck an arrow . Like Ricky mentioned , you will not shoot faster than their reaction to the sound . It's best to reduce the bow noise as much as possible .
 
Hoss said:
Have fun. Don't worry so much. If you worry about everything that could go wrong, you will suck the fun out of it.

DITTO. that is one reason I shoot trad, the equipment is simple and less worries. :grin:
 
bradshaw34 said:
Is it possible to shoot at IBO rated speed, and what is IBO? [/quoteI]

IBO is shot with a light arrow at 30 in and 70# it is shot off a bare string and a drop away (I assume about the rest). It is not practical for hunting...you can get close but hunting set ups are always less

You can shorten your arrow a good bit and pick up some speed...plus your arrow is heavy as is with 11gpi and 32 inches. I like to stay around a 400 grian arrow weight.
 
That arrow is heavy.. depending on what rest you are using, I have my WB rest all the way back, as far as it will go. I'm able to use a shorter arrow, plus I'm able to shoot at 63lbs, instead of 70lbs. And I still get the same speed because of my short arrow.

Not sure if that makes sense or not, but moving the rest back helped me alot.
 
AlabamaSwamper said:
247fps with a hunting set up isn't all that bad.

Most folks would be amazed that their bows aren't shooting anywhere near the IBO speed.

True , most hunting setups are not at IBO specs .
 
I cannot tell that a drop away makes any difference in speed. I know it did not when I went to one on my bow.
 
Drop away is not going to affect speed by any appreciable amount. What you gain in friction you loose in weight on cable or limb. It's a wash.

You guys are sucking the fun out of it again. :grin:
 
Bob I know about the tinkerer thing. I am a fun sucker from way back. We all just over think it. We can ruminate so hard over things that just don't matter we totally destroy our self confidence. That is all I am getting at Bob. I am not trying to squelch discussion. Just trying to have a little fun with it. That is the purpose of the grin smiley. To let you know I'm just funning.

The reason I make fun is because when the discussion turns anal retentive, "I've been there, done that!". So, sometimes the best advice from someone who's already been down that road is to "Don't worry, Be Happy!".:smile: :grin: :blush:
 
I shoot a 2005 reflex gamegetter, if I had to guess it might be pushing 275fps. I have shot a few deer with it and everyone I shot the arrow passed all the way threw with no problem. DO NOT worry about your speed, you have plenty. Find you a good set of broadheads, tune your bow, focus on your accuracy, try to get it as quiet as possible, and practice. When you find that sweet spot where your shootin good groups, stick with it. Speed is not going to help if you can't hit your target to begin with. Don't worry about it and have FUN !!!
 
Everyone tunes and shoots differently.....Set it up the way you want it and get what you want out of it. Don't let it stress you out. I probably got the slowest bow on here. But it works for me !
 

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