Big 3 Conferences

[Scioto]

For now, the "Power 5" rule college sports and even could challenge the NCAA.

Here's an interesting article. http://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal ... nue-oregon What struck me is the SEC, B1G, and Big 12 are pulling away in terms of revenue from the PAC 12 and ACC. Money talks. I think the ACC is destined to break up and within 10 years, if not sooner, we'll be talking about the Power 4 conferences. FSU will become an SEC member.

What is also interesting is despite Phil Knight and Nike boosting Nike to #1 in revenue and net income, the PAC 12 is also falling behind the now Big 3. I don't think the PAC 12 goes away, but I think it increasingly becomes a two tier league even more so than the B1G and Big 12. I also wonder how long the SEC can avoid becoming a two tier league, as state budgets make that inevitable - sorry S Car, LSU, Ole Miss, MSU and possibly even Bama fans.

 

[baddnole]

For now, the "Power 5" rule college sports and even could challenge the NCAA.

Here's an interesting article. http://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal ... nue-oregon What struck me is the SEC, B1G, and Big 12 are pulling away in terms of revenue from the PAC 12 and ACC. Money talks. I think the ACC is destined to break up and within 10 years, if not sooner, we'll be talking about the Power 4 conferences. FSU will become an SEC member.

What is also interesting is despite Phil Knight and Nike boosting Nike to #1 in revenue and net income, the PAC 12 is also falling behind the now Big 3. I don't think the PAC 12 goes away, but I think it increasingly becomes a two tier league even more so than the B1G and Big 12. I also wonder how long the SEC can avoid becoming a two tier league, as state budgets make that inevitable - sorry S Car, LSU, Ole Miss, MSU and possibly even Bama fans.

The ACC does not have a hole, because we make enough. Yes, could we make a few more bucks, sure, but it is not like Apple vs Texas instruments.

Here is how I view this payout deal. First of all, colleges are not publicly traded, so how much they make is immaterial beyond a certain survival point. The SEC gets 31m, OK, now how will it improve their football programs. Yes it provides some more $$$ for coaches but at what point do salaries have a diminishing return, in fact, one could make an argument they are at that point now. I mean all of the SECW coaches make $4M, and wins and losses are a zero sum game so a few, or one of those $4M coaches will go 2-6 so how did that $4M coach payoff, other than get them in the top 10 of the coach rankings? Can a school build two IPFs? Florida is just getting around to building one now.

What would FSU do with an extra $5M, build a higher roof on the IPF, start a lacrosse team, or hockey team. Colleges do not have shareholders, so they cannot return the $$$ as a dividend. Since they are not publicly traded their stock price cannot go up either. All we need is enough to make our facilities good enough, or in the top 25%, which ours are.

The system is two fold, Revenues are somewhat capitalistic in nature, while expenditures are socialistic in nature so $$$ coming in have less of an impact on wins. Since the announcement of the SEC network, the SEC has not won a NC.

To put it this way, those $$$ coming into the SEC cannot buy players, like $$$ can buy players for the NY Yankees.

What $$$ cannot change is the the fact that teams cannot change location. What I know is that FSU will always be in Florida and can draw talent from the old south too, due primarily to location. As long as our facilities are good enough then players will check that off their list.

Let Kentucky have its $31M because no matter how big the payoff is, the majority of HS football players in Florida want to stay in state. They are not going to play at UK or KU no matter how much UK gets from the league.

 

[Scioto]

Badnole, I get what you are saying, but I'm sure we could come up with a long list of products and companies that were better than "good enough" at one point in their history and are now extinct or industry laggards. Kodak, Polaroid, My Space, AOL, Pontiac, or my favorite Youngstown Sheet and Tube. All too soon "good enough" is surpassed. Those conferences generating more revenue will continue to increase their lead over the other conferences. I'm surprised the Big 12 is one thing of the top 3 instead of the Pac 12. ACC is too much of a basketball conference and with the decline in college basketball is suffering.

What I think will be more interesting to see is whether state budgets will start impacting some more of the schools. For the most part athletic departments are self funding but the rest of the university will put out its hands to the rich uncle. There is no reason that Illinois should not be a football and basketball power in the B1G but I wonder if being the flagship university in a basket case state has resulted in its facilities, coaches, and recruiting budgets no longer being good enough.