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Before getting to the substance of my post, I want to make clear what follows in the next paragraph is in no way an excuse for that inexplicable loss that Ohio State suffered Saturday night in Happy Valley. Despite what some OSU fans say, the blown PI call also wasn't the reason. Note the team and coaches don't blame the ref; rather, themselves. It was the O line (primarily the right side) getting blown up by a 4, occasionally 5, man rush all night long. It was the inexplicable special teams blunders (blocked punt and blocked field goal within minutes of each other in the 4th quarter, but don't forget the missed PAT in the first). It was Curtis Samuel being OSU's leading rusher with only two carries for 71 yards (and the first carry came mid-way through the third quarter and went 74 yards to the house, and he gets his name called one more time). Is it the wrong routes being called or WRs just can't get separation or the power spread? I think it's probably all three. It's the 128th youngest team in FBS, but I thought we'd see that type of performance in week 2, not week 8. Etc. Etc. The only good things to come from this weekend are (a) Franklin will get an extension, (b) I took the carry permit class with my wife yesterday and shooting 100 rounds is cathartic, and (c) I was still able to point out to my Michigan fan neighbor friend the last 15 years of OSU v UM history at the bus stop this morning. Buckeyes have their season still in front of them, I never thought this young team would go undefeated, but they better get some stuff fixed.

With that introduction out of the way, what would you Bama, Vols, or Gator fans say if your favorite team had to stay at a Ramada Inn the night before playing LSU or Georgia or Ole Miss? What if they had to hold their walk through in said ram-it-inn's parking lot? That's State College, Pennsylvania folks. If it's on your bucket list, be sure to take your camper with you. Bobby Knight warned everyone about this and was against Penn State being allowed into the conference for this reason. Bama fans, if you played UT at night and the next week played LSU at night and both those teams had byes before they played your Crimson Tide, would you be on the phone to Birmingham this morning? Vols fans, same for a game at Arkansas followed by at UF and both teams had byes before they played your Vols? Not excuses, but come on man!
 
You surprised me, OHVATN; when I read the title of the thread, I assumed you were going to be blasting the SEC for either the eight game conference schedule, the late season "Cupcake Saturday," or both. I guess we can save that one for later. :poke:

OHVATN":1616xbgg said:
Bama, Vols, or Gator fans say if your favorite team had to stay at a Ramada Inn the night before playing LSU or Georgia or Ole Miss? What if they had to hold their walk through in said ram-it-inn's parking lot? That's State College, Pennsylvania folks.

Bama DID play at PSU in 2011. I have no idea what their accommodations were, and I realize it's not the same as having to do it every other year. State College sounds like the Big-10 version of Starkville, which is an apt name for the town. FWIW, I know that the last time Auburn played at Miss State, they actually stayed 90 minutes away, in Tuscaloosa of all places (on campus, even!). It was surreal seeing the Auburn players leaving the Capstone Hotel to board the team buses for Starkville. Looking at the map, Harrisburg looks to be about 90 minutes from State College. Maybe OSU needs to take a lesson from the Barners and stay outta town.

OHVATN":1616xbgg said:
Bama fans, if you played UT at night and the next week played LSU at night and both those teams had byes before they played your Crimson Tide, would you be on the phone to Birmingham this morning?

Bama had a somewhat similar setup last year. A&M (away) and UT (home) back-to-back with both coming off byes, then a week off followed by LSU who was also coming off a bye. I thought it was BS then, and I'm sure Bill Battle was on the phone to Birmingham when that schedule came out.

As far as the consecutive night games, I don't think you can blame that on the conference. It's my understanding that, as part of the TV contracts, the networks get to pick kickoff times to maximize ratings. So I think your gripe there is with CBS and ESPN.
 
Zulu":2rzbx6iw said:
You surprised me, OHVATN; when I read the title of the thread, I assumed you were going to be blasting the SEC for either the eight game conference schedule, the late season "Cupcake Saturday," or both. I guess we can save that one for later. :poke:

OHVATN":2rzbx6iw said:
Bama, Vols, or Gator fans say if your favorite team had to stay at a Ramada Inn the night before playing LSU or Georgia or Ole Miss? What if they had to hold their walk through in said ram-it-inn's parking lot? That's State College, Pennsylvania folks.

Bama DID play at PSU in 2011. I have no idea what their accommodations were, and I realize it's not the same as having to do it every other year. State College sounds like the Big-10 version of Starkville, which is an apt name for the town. FWIW, I know that the last time Auburn played at Miss State, they actually stayed 90 minutes away, in Tuscaloosa of all places (on campus, even!). It was surreal seeing the Auburn players leaving the Capstone Hotel to board the team buses for Starkville. Looking at the map, Harrisburg looks to be about 90 minutes from State College. Maybe OSU needs to take a lesson from the Barners and stay outta town.

OHVATN":2rzbx6iw said:
Bama fans, if you played UT at night and the next week played LSU at night and both those teams had byes before they played your Crimson Tide, would you be on the phone to Birmingham this morning?

Bama had a somewhat similar setup last year. A&M (away) and UT (home) back-to-back with both coming off byes, then a week off followed by LSU who was also coming off a bye. I thought it was BS then, and I'm sure Bill Battle was on the phone to Birmingham when that schedule came out.

As far as the consecutive night games, I don't think you can blame that on the conference. It's my understanding that, as part of the TV contracts, the networks get to pick kickoff times to maximize ratings. So I think your gripe there is with CBS and ESPN.

No gripe about the night games, but Gene Smith better be on the phone to Delaney about the back-to-back AWAY games vs teams coming off byes. That's my gripe.

Have you ever been to Harrisburg? I have. Not sure that it's much better than State College, but it's probably equivalent to Jackson, MS, having been to both state capitals.

Now about that 8 game conference schedule and "cupcake Saturday," which we refer to as chicken-that-rhymes-with-it Saturday, ........ Oh forget it.
 
Totally unfair!! Loss shouldn't count! An away game against a team coming off a bye at NIGHT!! Staying at the ramada? Was it raining?? Vermin, that you?
:lol:
 
Does Ramada Inn offer free Wi-Fi, HBO and complimentary breakfast?



If not then I agree. Outrageous I tell ya. :smash:
 
Mudbone":3jwhk1je said:
Totally unfair!! Loss shouldn't count! An away game against a team coming off a bye at NIGHT!! Staying at the ramada? Was it raining?? Vermin, that you?
:lol:

Now now. I never said anything that this loss was actually a win did I?

Come to think of it, it was raining, hard. And it was windy. Downright swirly. Hmm ...... On second thought .......

It was also well under 60 degrees. Low 40s to be exact. You could see the players' breath. Aren't SEC schools allowed to declare mutual victory when it gets cold? :lol:
 
TeamMainStreet":2po0nkda said:
Does Ramada Inn offer free Wi-Fi, HBO and complimentary breakfast?



If not then I agree. Outrageous I tell ya. :smash:

It is "Happiness in Happy Valley" but no HBO and NO FREE BREAKFAST!!!!
 
Zulu":2sgthoaj said:
You surprised me, OHVATN; when I read the title of the thread, I assumed you were going to be blasting the SEC for either the eight game conference schedule, the late season "Cupcake Saturday," or both. I guess we can save that one for later. :poke:

OHVATN":2sgthoaj said:
Bama, Vols, or Gator fans say if your favorite team had to stay at a Ramada Inn the night before playing LSU or Georgia or Ole Miss? What if they had to hold their walk through in said ram-it-inn's parking lot? That's State College, Pennsylvania folks.

Bama DID play at PSU in 2011. I have no idea what their accommodations were, and I realize it's not the same as having to do it every other year. State College sounds like the Big-10 version of Starkville, which is an apt name for the town. FWIW, I know that the last time Auburn played at Miss State, they actually stayed 90 minutes away, in Tuscaloosa of all places (on campus, even!). It was surreal seeing the Auburn players leaving the Capstone Hotel to board the team buses for Starkville. Looking at the map, Harrisburg looks to be about 90 minutes from State College. Maybe OSU needs to take a lesson from the Barners and stay outta town.

OHVATN":2sgthoaj said:
Bama fans, if you played UT at night and the next week played LSU at night and both those teams had byes before they played your Crimson Tide, would you be on the phone to Birmingham this morning?

Bama had a somewhat similar setup last year. A&M (away) and UT (home) back-to-back with both coming off byes, then a week off followed by LSU who was also coming off a bye. I thought it was BS then, and I'm sure Bill Battle was on the phone to Birmingham when that schedule came out.

As far as the consecutive night games, I don't think you can blame that on the conference. It's my understanding that, as part of the TV contracts, the networks get to pick kickoff times to maximize ratings. So I think your gripe there is with CBS and ESPN.

And now back to you Zulu, you should double check, but I think that was Alabama's last home and home non-conference match-up and last non-conference game outside of the South.
 
If I'm not mistaken, TN had to stay an hour and half from collage station. I don't know if they held their walk through in their stadium or at a high school. I know a few years ago TN had to stay somewhere a couple hours from venue and held their walk through at the local high school of where they were staying. And, then there was the year TN flew into LSU on game day, played game and flew out and didn't even stay.
 
OHVATN":1n2ae09v said:
Mudbone":1n2ae09v said:
Totally unfair!! Loss shouldn't count! An away game against a team coming off a bye at NIGHT!! Staying at the ramada? Was it raining?? Vermin, that you?
:lol:

Now now. I never said anything that this loss was actually a win did I?

Come to think of it, it was raining, hard. And it was windy. Downright swirly. Hmm ...... On second thought .......

It was also well under 60 degrees. Low 40s to be exact. You could see the players' breath. Aren't SEC schools allowed to declare mutual victory when it gets cold? :lol:
Lol!! U know I'm just :poke:
I wish osu woulda killed em. Cjf is a punk. He stole all of vandy recruits when he left. He did vandy wrong. He was treated like royalty here and he crapped on the whole organization when he dipped.
 
OHVATN":2z1zxs5r said:
(c) I was still able to point out to my Michigan fan neighbor friend the last 15 years of OSU v UM history at the bus stop this morning.

Who rides the bus nowadays?
 
Sounds like Urban needs to fire the team hotel scheduler. Why wouldn't they stay at the Penn Stater Hotel and Conference Center, Marriott Toftrees Resort, Carnegie Spa or Nittany Lion Inn. All great hotels within a couple miles of the stadium. Down a notch from that there are multiple Hilton and Marriott hotels like Hampton Inn and Courtyard.
 
wayne":gfaj39mq said:
OHVATN":gfaj39mq said:
(c) I was still able to point out to my Michigan fan neighbor friend the last 15 years of OSU v UM history at the bus stop this morning.

Who rides the bus nowadays?

I don't know. Fourth graders?
 
TNRifleman":jb3vii0k said:
Sounds like Urban needs to fire the team hotel scheduler. Why wouldn't they stay at the Penn Stater Hotel and Conference Center, Marriott Toftrees Resort, Carnegie Spa or Nittany Lion Inn. All great hotels within a couple miles of the stadium. Down a notch from that there are multiple Hilton and Marriott hotels like Hampton Inn and Courtyard.

Perhaps booked by 107,000 Penn Staters? Alternatively, they may have in 2014 when said staff of hotel pulled the fire alarms at 4 am or 2012 when Penn State fans started blowing air horns at 3 am. It's a lovely place.
 
OHVATN":fpysbot9 said:
Before getting to the substance of my post, I want to make clear what follows in the next paragraph is in no way an excuse for that inexplicable loss that Ohio State suffered Saturday night in Happy Valley. Despite what some OSU fans say, the blown PI call also wasn't the reason. Note the team and coaches don't blame the ref; rather, themselves. It was the O line (primarily the right side) getting blown up by a 4, occasionally 5, man rush all night long. It was the inexplicable special teams blunders (blocked punt and blocked field goal within minutes of each other in the 4th quarter, but don't forget the missed PAT in the first). It was Curtis Samuel being OSU's leading rusher with only two carries for 71 yards (and the first carry came mid-way through the third quarter and went 74 yards to the house, and he gets his name called one more time). Is it the wrong routes being called or WRs just can't get separation or the power spread? I think it's probably all three. It's the 128th youngest team in FBS, but I thought we'd see that type of performance in week 2, not week 8. Etc. Etc. The only good things to come from this weekend are (a) Franklin will get an extension, (b) I took the carry permit class with my wife yesterday and shooting 100 rounds is cathartic, and (c) I was still able to point out to my Michigan fan neighbor friend the last 15 years of OSU v UM history at the bus stop this morning. Buckeyes have their season still in front of them, I never thought this young team would go undefeated, but they better get some stuff fixed.

With that introduction out of the way, what would you Bama, Vols, or Gator fans say if your favorite team had to stay at a Ramada Inn the night before playing LSU or Georgia or Ole Miss? What if they had to hold their walk through in said ram-it-inn's parking lot? That's State College, Pennsylvania folks. If it's on your bucket list, be sure to take your camper with you. Bobby Knight warned everyone about this and was against Penn State being allowed into the conference for this reason. Bama fans, if you played UT at night and the next week played LSU at night and both those teams had byes before they played your Crimson Tide, would you be on the phone to Birmingham this morning? Vols fans, same for a game at Arkansas followed by at UF and both teams had byes before they played your Vols? Not excuses, but come on man!

Oh...Look, I drew a picture of how much I care about their misfortune.
 

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