Bow Stabilization Secrets..................

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When the subject of bow stabilization is mentioned it takes on a life all in itself sometimes. If you take more than a casual look at how people attach stabilizers to their bows you will notice very quickly that there seems to be no rhyme or reason of how they go about it, making it highly subjective!

You'll see single bars, v-bars,single back bars, double back bars, and an endless variations of configurations even on the identical model bow. Then you will see add on weights screwed on in any place they can!

I realize that how some people approach stabilizing their bow is based on their height, stamina, bow model, and strength.

Some real smart folks have written encyclopedic length papers on this very subject likening the process to voodoo!

Here's what little I know about it:

The shorter the bar the more weight you'll need and of course, the longer the bar the less weight you need. If your sight pin moves from side to side, load the front bar with weight. If your sight pin bobs up and down load the back bar until it slows or stops regardless of how much weight, and you can add mass weight to the bow. Remember light weight bows really aren't your friend in a competition rig! The angle of your back bar applies leverage and determines the amount of weight to be used.

My current set-up on my PCE is 4 ounces on a 33" front bar and 24 ounces on a 15' back bar set at about 45 degrees and very close to the bow. The bow is balanced perfectly at pre-draw and at full draw and I think the bow needs more weight! (On order)The front and back bars are attached to the front stabilizer hole with a Bernie's knuckle. If I attach a back bar to the lower hole I can most likely use a shorter bar and less weight. This will require more future experimentation and of course more money!

Take a look at the pictures of Reo Wilde that I've posted. Reo is the number one ranked archer in the world! His whole family is into archery! If you study his bow stabilizer set-up I am left scratching my head wondering how does he do that?

In the pictures look closely at the amount of weight on the front bar and the back bar. Then look at the position of the back bar! The back bar looks like it's out there at 45 to 60 degrees! Try your set up like this some time and I guarantee that you will be fighting the bubble and the bow will feel as if it's going flip over on its' side! In most of the pics Reo is shooting a Fuse Blade stabilizer and back bar. The Blade weights are made in 1, 2 and 3 ounces. Reo is shooting mostly rows of 3 ounces weights. That's a lot of added weight!!! He's also one of the few archers I know of that has more weight on the front bar than the back bar!

How does he do that? He's Reo!
















 
As you have stated, it boils down to personal preference. I like a 30" front bar with around 4-5 oz's of weight with no back or side bar, that is where my bow feels the most stable and very little float. If you notice in the pics you posted, Reo leans back at full draw, which usually is a sign of DL being too long, but hey it's Reo Wilde. Dudes a beast when it comes to competition. Good post by the way
 
It is indeed hard to argue with the results that Reo posts being the number one ranked archer in the world. Reo always looks as if he is leaning back at full draw as if his draw length is too long as Tony pointed out! But when he draws back he holds it rock solid!
 
Eric Kilby said:
"15' back bar set at about 45 degrees"

How do you transport that long of back bar

Twist the QD a quarter turn, slide the bar into a soft case I made and into the bow case and off we go!
 
I'm needing a target stab set up. Sold my entire Doinker set last year when I was in between jobs.

If anyone can recommend the proverbial "best bang for your buck" stab set up that would be great.

Looking at my Lancaster catalog it's hard to determine what is the best set up.
 
TNDeerGuy said:
Bernie's makes a great setup�I recommend the Falconlite series.

Bernie has some great products!

UTG, I recommend you buddy up with someone that will let you try their bars and weights for a shooting session to get a feel for how you like the bow. This might help you avoid some of the trial and error mistakes that cost you money that I've been through.

It takes some cash to balance a bow properly! On my current set-up I am running the following:

B-Stinger Premier 33" Bar $225.00
B-Stinger Premier 15" Back Bar $79.00
B-Stinger stack weights $22.99 x7 and need more.
B-Stinger 10 degree down QD $24.99
Bernie's Side Bar Knuckle $89.00

That's just a hair under $600.00 just for stabilizer and accessories. When you get ready PM me I may be able to save you some money on these items.
 
Thanks DC

Yeah that's where AT classifieds will come in handy. I was looking at the $120 B Stinger front bar as an option.

Question:

What features does a mid to high end stab offer that is lacking in a low end stab?
 
UTGrad said:
Thanks DC

Yeah that's where AT classifieds will come in handy. I was looking at the $120 B Stinger front bar as an option.

Question:

What features does a mid to high end stab offer that is lacking in a low end stab?

Many of the high end products, like Bernie's, have bars that are extremely light so that the weight is more distributed to the end of the bars, where it needs to be with added weight, compared to distributed throughout the entire bar. My front bar, 30" and back bar 14", are around 3.5oz of weight combined.
 
Weights are expensive for sure. All you really need is the correct size bolt to fit the threads of your stabilizer...and put your own weights on it. I stole this from a guy at the ASA shoots. He had sockets on his bow. I started weighing sockets and, that's the better route IMO.

A 3/4 inch socket weighs 2.22 ounces.

A 3/4 inch socket costs $3.

2 ounces of B-Stinger weights = around $20.

Of course, bigger sockets = more weight but still the same general price for each. Weight is weight IMO. I don't have a 1 inch socket that I can weigh right now but I imagine it would be around 3 oz or so.
 
Crow Terminator said:
Weights are expensive for sure. All you really need is the correct size bolt to fit the threads of your stabilizer...and put your own weights on it. I stole this from a guy at the ASA shoots. He had sockets on his bow. I started weighing sockets and, that's the better route IMO.

A 3/4 inch socket weighs 2.22 ounces.

A 3/4 inch socket costs $3.

2 ounces of B-Stinger weights = around $20.

Of course, bigger sockets = more weight but still the same general price for each. Weight is weight IMO. I don't have a 1 inch socket that I can weigh right now but I imagine it would be around 3 oz or so.

That's not a bad idea. Any issues stacking sockets?
 
The guy I saw at the ASA had several sockets stacked on his rig. So I guess not. The only issue I've ran into, is needing a longer bolt to hold all of the sockets I'm putting on there :) If nothing else, it would let you get an idea of how much weight you need to get your setup where you want it. Then you could order exactly what you need in weights, if you decide the sockets look tacky. I've got a buddy that went head over heels in buying this expensive stuff last year. He had over $400 in his B-Stinger rig and never even went to an ASA shoot. He didn't even shoot the state shoot. He shot a few local shoots with it and that was it.
 
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Anyone seen or got any feedback on Dead Center Archery Dead Level stabilizer system? I'm looking for a front bar/side bar combo that will work hunting and 3D.
 
UTGrad said:
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Anyone seen or got any feedback on Dead Center Archery Dead Level stabilizer system? I'm looking for a front bar/side bar combo that will work hunting and 3D.

I have the Dead Level Hunter from Dead Center Archery on my Carbon Matrix and really like it. This picture doesn't show the other side of the bracket and 2 quick disconnects. Talk nice to me and I might shoot some pics of the other side! Great company too deal with too!

 

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