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Clover type- Ladino or White Dutch?

Hunt 365

Hunt 365

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Getting my plan together for February seeding, and priced Ladino v. White Dutch clovers. The Ladino is 33% to 40% higher seed price wise. Is the price difference worth it, or should I put the extra $ in maintenance and fertilizer. Thanks!
 
Never used White Dutch but if your going to try an establish a clover field in the spring your going to have to have good maintenance to try an combat the weeds and grasses with the slow start the clover will have. Make sure your lime is right or your just wasting your money.
 
You might also consider Durana clover; it's all I plant anymore. Though it's a little slower to establish it is EXTREMELY drought resistant, long lived, and fairly easy to maintain. Yes it costs a bit more initially, but over the long term it's a pretty competitive alternative.
 
Might also consider Durranna, or Patriot.

I've never heard one bad thing about durranna other than the price!

It's a little slower to establish, but really make a "blanket" that second with proper ground prep.
 
Boll Weevil said:
You might also consider Durana clover; it's all I plant anymore. Though it's a little slower to establish it is EXTREMELY drought resistant, long lived, and fairly easy to maintain. Yes it costs a bit more initially, but over the long term it's a pretty competitive alternative.
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I agree.
 
muddyboots said:
Not to hijack - i planted alot durana in the fall and it really didnt do much. when u say slow to establish does that mean it might still grow?
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Yes, it will Probably take off in the spring. Once established and if you take care of it it is amazing clover.
 
Durana all the way. That stuff will grow on concrete and the deer can not stay off of it! Worth every penny.
 
Durana is very drought resistant, but the Durana (and Patriot) clover we planted a few years ago was very small, and even inside the cages, never got very high. This soil where I'm going to plant is pretty rich, seems to have good moisture, so I'm going to try to establish a big, lush stand of it. May hedge may bets in smaller areas with the Durana though. Any suggestions of online retailers? Local store only has the small, super expensive bags
 
Hunt,
I've ordered some 25# bags online from Cooper and typically try to buy enough to justify the shipping costs. As well, I've found that Durana actually seems to like clay...it's wierd. I've planted in good, black, loamy bottomground and also in some of my roads up on the highground. The dirt in the roads is pretty sorry compared to the bottoms but I was surprised at how well it's done.
 
Hunt 365,

Just remember that Durana clover is half-way in between the growth height of White Dutch and Ladino. White Dutch is very short-stemmed (very similar to the white clover in most peoples' lawns), while Ladino is a tall-stem clover.
 
muddyboots said:
Not to hijack - i planted alot durana in the fall and it really didnt do much. when u say slow to establish does that mean it might still grow?
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We mix landino, crimson & yucchi arrowleaf to overseed the wheat/oats each fall. Pretty much have clover all year. When one plays out, the other is coming on.

Matter of fact, if it wasn't for clover, our plots would be solid dirt right now...It's been eaten down to about 1/2", but all the ceral grains & rape is gone.
 
I'm sold on some of the Durana. My thumbnail research after reading you all's comments has me sold. Cost factor though - would it be imprudent to mix the white dutch with some of the Durana? Make it last longer? Looking for a deer/turkey double whammy. Tellico4x4's post seemed to mix red and white clovers. Or should I mix durana and some red? Thanks
 
I don't know for sure as I've never tried mixing but because the other clovers are faster to establish there may be some risk of early shading/competition. As well, seeding rates may be different from clover to clover so factor that in.

If you plan on frost seeding be sure to think about your soil prep too...It's awful wet right now unless your dirt's already prepared. Best of luck to you!
 
Shout out to R and J Feeds in Jackson in you all are close. $149 for 25 lbs of Durana, that's $10 cheaper than anyone even on the Internet and instant gratification. I agonized over spending the extra $, then realized it is a drop in the bucket if it is as good as all the research says, and bought it. Going to frost seed it in February with some oats, and a little crimson clover to give 'em a variety. Maybe I'll have some green in there by middle of turkey season. Besides my existing attraction plots, I have some great areas where they cut some hardwoods on my place in mid-December during all of that rain and all their equipment made some outstanding future plot areas. Soil is nice too! Will post update pics in a few months
 

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