Florida vs Oklahoma
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gator-n-buck
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Opting out has killed bowl games unless playing for NC. Good chance for young players to play.... Go Gators.
tree_ghost
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This is UGLY....
Mescalero
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I wish I had a dollar for the number of times Tessitore has mentioned UF's opt outs? How can I get the Bama or ND radio call on Friday? This guy is painful.
BamaProud
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I had the Sooners -3.5.
gator-n-buck
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bloodtrailing
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That was embarrassing
Hmmmm.... UF was down several key players, no doubt, but that was a pretty pathetic showing. Dan was spinning it quite well after the game, but he was out coached. It could have been much closer. UF tackling was nonexistent, and several dropped/tipped passes made Trask look worse than he played. I do feel sorry for him having to go out that way, seems like a hard working class act.
I agree that "opt-outs" are killing the sport, but I don't claim to know the solution. It's a mess, and i guess that we can keep hoping that it will fix itself, but that is not going to happen. NCAA needs a leadership change with some vision
I agree that "opt-outs" are killing the sport, but I don't claim to know the solution. It's a mess, and i guess that we can keep hoping that it will fix itself, but that is not going to happen. NCAA needs a leadership change with some vision
There is no solution if they aren't playing in the final four. Means nothing to them. At all. This is the new era of football.
buckaroo
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Kinda like you keeping a close eye on the transfer portal players for the Vols
PillsburyDoughboy
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That's why I say these bowl games are a bunch of malarkey. Many of the good players choose not to attend them because they allready have their eyes on the NFL draft and it makes ZERO sense for them to squander their chance of getting drafted getting hurt in a game that means NOTHING. So you have a bunch of pine riders filling in playing. So mommy gets to see Johnny play for the first time ever because Hank is not out there on the main squad. Oh Goody.
Mescalero
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All true, but I'm trying to figure out how 4 WR/TE opt outs resulted in UF allowing 435 yards rushing and almost 700 total yards.
Mescalero
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It wasn't malarkey for Oklahoma last night or Wisconsin (or even Wake Forest) yesterday afternoon. Are you saying it's malarkey for SEC teams? I guess Georgia fans better get prepared for the game tomorrow. Put your money on the Bearcats tomorrow boys, because that game's malarkey for Georgia.
No difference in any other game UF played. Only difference is UF offense put up tons of points against Bama. Helps keep other offenses off the field. So yeah no difference than any other game.
BamaProud
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I understand what yall are getting at, but I think yer making a Mountain out of a Mole-Hill. Only about 2 percent of college players ever even have a shot at playing in the NFL, and very few players have opted out since the Playoff started. The vast majority of players (probably 99.5%) are excited about playing a bowl, because it is likely to be the highlight of their football career.
I read an article last week about how Urban Meyer's opinion on bowl games had changed over the years. He was once a staunch supporter of the old bowl system. Now he thinks they need to expand the playoffs.
"I have had some really deep conversations with some of my colleagues, and the game is changing," Meyer said. "And I think the playoff — I can't believe I'm saying it — because I'm a traditionalist. I love the bowl games, I love the bowl experience. But you have two different sets of groups — the elite group, the high profile players, and the maybe not so high profile. I'm not saying bad players, but when I was at Notre Dame, we went 7-6 one time, we went to the Independence Bowl, the team didn't want to go. And so what these coaches are dealing with, I kind of dealt with, but not like now. There's two things important to elite players — NFL, College Football Playoff. If that doesn't happen, they're not going to play in bowl games. I'm not saying all of them, but I know coaches are dealing with that on a day-to-day basis."
I am not an Urban Meyer fan I just thought it was interesting that he had changed his mind on bowl games.
"I have had some really deep conversations with some of my colleagues, and the game is changing," Meyer said. "And I think the playoff — I can't believe I'm saying it — because I'm a traditionalist. I love the bowl games, I love the bowl experience. But you have two different sets of groups — the elite group, the high profile players, and the maybe not so high profile. I'm not saying bad players, but when I was at Notre Dame, we went 7-6 one time, we went to the Independence Bowl, the team didn't want to go. And so what these coaches are dealing with, I kind of dealt with, but not like now. There's two things important to elite players — NFL, College Football Playoff. If that doesn't happen, they're not going to play in bowl games. I'm not saying all of them, but I know coaches are dealing with that on a day-to-day basis."
I am not an Urban Meyer fan I just thought it was interesting that he had changed his mind on bowl games.
I disagree. There ARE solutions, but it takes leadership to change with the times. A few suggestions, and I'm sure that there are flies on many, and I'm sure that there are more:
-Expand the playoffs, and fix how teams get in. Cincinnati had more claim to being included than ND, and if legitimacy is given to selection then legitimacy should come to the games
-Reduce the number of bowls so that the ones who get an invitation actually feel honored
-Allow bowl sponsors to give more SWAG to players, and allow the players to treat their stuff like their stuff (ie, sell jerseys and other memorabilia if they want to)
-With NIL changes, allow the bowls to enhance the elite players marketability
These are all things that can be done without putting additional cost burdens on the schools, who are making millions off of the regular season AND bowl games, so it would behoove them to try to find a solution before it is too late
Agree to an extent, but sometimes the best defense is a good offense. When the offense can't keep drives going, or can't finish them, then the offense gets worn down.
Yes, "third and Grantham" is a thing (I'm a UGA fan, so I know this all too well), and the defense played poorly last night (didn't even try to wrap up and tackle half of the time, which comes back to coaching), but that was a whole-team loss that belongs to the head coach as much as the DC or OC.
I understand being without many key players. Look back at the Cocktail Party this season and you will see that UGA was without MANY key starters and backups. I really figured before the game that a well rested UF would win, so I didn't even watch; I went hunting instead. I really expected it to be closer than it was, but see the comments above about the offense. UF was the better team that day, and outplayed and out coached UGA. But after the game the head coach didn't spin excuses, he just said "we got beat." Dan may want to try that sometime rather than throwing his team under the bus with excuses
