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I thought I'd stick this up here where it would get more views. I wrote one of the TWRA's biologists about the habitat management on the WMA as I have seen changes in the last few years and IMO it has hurt the hunting a little bit for both deer and turkey, but mostly the turkey.

I think his response is good news for the hunters that use PP WMA and for those that have been wondering it will shed some insight as to why they have gone the direction they have over the past couple of years. I had heard the farmer got old or couldn't plant anymore (he didn't confirm that) but at least they appear to be looking for someone to plant the fields.

Also thought his comment about turkey populations overall may be of interest to some on here. E-mail body:

Good morning Mr. Benson,

I appreciate your interest in maintaining quality habitat on Percy Priest and ultimately other areas as well. Turkey numbers are declining in most counties as the artificially high population from initial stocking efforts begins to find the natural carrying capacity of the habitat. You are correct in some fields becoming way too overgrown. This is a result of several consecutive wet springs preventing us from doing any prescribed burning to reduce woody growth. We are considering placing the fields back into share cropping so we don't lose the fields.

Just want to assure you we are going to address the issue.

I assume he means over growth to the point of no return when he mentions losing the fields, not that the fields will be taken away from the WMA.

I sure hope thy find a farmer, because I can assure you turkey hunting was way better when they worked the fields. In the mean time I will have to hit up some of those Maury county WMAs. I heard, what you do is look for a small red pickup truck and then when you find it, park there, and go into the woods. When you hear a bird gobble on the limb, get to it and shoot it off, then just tell the guy that you are from AR..... :lol: :poke: :poke:
 
I think they should keep a good balance between overgrown fields and share cropping. The crop fields make for some good hunting but the overgrown fields become some of the best habitat.

I also have had the same thoughts on turkey carrying capacity. People talk about how many birds there used to be, and I was wondering if that wasn't too many birds, and maybe it has leveled out over the past few years. I guess we will see if it keeps going down statewide of if most areas have just reached a plateau
 
Good to know the manager is wanting to be proactive it's also good to know he responded to you.

As for a population plateau. Maybe so in some places but in other places it has been a population crash.
Let's say we are at the natural carrying capacity now, is fall hunting and a 4 bird limit Ok for that? I don't see how if it is.



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Don't forget about urban expansion. I'm sure that could be a small variable in the overall equation as well. Although WMA acreage is pretty vast, there are more and more subdivisions beginning to bump up against PP WMAs that used to be private farm land. Heck...I personally live in one of 'em. Not a whole lot can be done about that...money talks, BS walks.
 
Gravey":ienmyhkt said:
I haven't hunted it this year or recently that I recall but pass the fields on 840 all the time and have not seen the first turkey this year. Some didn't get planted but a couple did. I have seen a few deer.
turkeys have not been in fields as much as usual in middle TN this year. Certain days they are but they've been in the woods a lot more than usual.


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catman529":3pq2jklr said:
Gravey":3pq2jklr said:
I haven't hunted it this year or recently that I recall but pass the fields on 840 all the time and have not seen the first turkey this year. Some didn't get planted but a couple did. I have seen a few deer.
turkeys have not been in fields as much as usual in middle TN this year. Certain days they are but they've been in the woods a lot more than usual.


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Since my time afield has been very limited I can't say one way or the other but I see them everyday in the fields at and around my house and I live within spitting distance of Priest.
 
Gravey":2dhj08mv said:
I haven't hunted it this year or recently that I recall but pass the fields on 840 all the time and have not seen the first turkey this year. Some didn't get planted but a couple did. I have seen a few deer.

you used to see turkey from time to time in those fields as in pretty much every day, but now they are non existent.
 
We have more turkeys than ever, they have adapted to avoid fields or use the power of invisibility. Oh its the red oak acorns keeping them in the woods, nothing more nutritious than a wormed out 6 month old acorn that is nothing but the shell.

But the experts say we are just transitioning back to a natural carrying capacity. The same experts who said we would plateau with a 70,000 bird spring harvest after restoration was completed. Please ignore the FACT that turkeys do not have a carrying capacity.

Jeez, I'm more salty than usual tonight :)

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