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I'm running very late and get to my spot about 11:30 AM.
Its thick and nasty, lots of saplings, but it's great cover. The trail to a watering hole is to my front and right, about 30 yards away.
After setting up on the ground, sitting quiet and still for about 45 min, I see movement at about 30 yards forward and left. I release the safety and raise the gun.
I watch as 3 deer, one after another, come angling past me. I'm able to make out one at a time thru the trees, all does. The first 2 look biggish, the last is smaller (pass on her).
As the first one gets to a clear shooting lane I can't find her in the scope. Even set down to 3X it's hard to locate her. She's 20 yards and sees me move, she locks on to me.
I freeze for an eternal 5 secs.
Finally she breaks eye contact and walks past the shot window.
I get scoped in on the spot and #2 comes into view. Perfect!
She stops and looks my way... crosshairs on shoulder, I pull the trigger on my 308, with a 150 gr Winchester Deer Season XP.
CLICK!
Yep, misfire.
I look down and imediately guess what's happened. Do I wait 10 secs? 20 secs? 30 secs?
I will admit that I only did a fast (adrenaline boosted) count of 5!
Run the bolt to load a new round and as I'm finding the scope eye piece, I get an off eye glimpse of the deer looking directly at me.
What fantastic luck! She stayed put.
I find her shoulder and squeeze the trigger, BOOM!!!
Flop! No step, no leap, no nothing, just straight back, flopped over.
In the excitement, I notice 2 deer bolting further ahead of this one?!?
I watch and after a few seconds I see hooves kicking at the sky, just briefly. Then all is quiet again.
I'm so excited, this is the first deer with my rifle. A Mossberg Patriot 308. This is my 4th harvest in 6 years of hunting. This one looked like a hefty doe!
I force myself to recall advice from other seasoned hunters, as I am not.
1. Chamber another round.
2. Wait 15 min. (Even though its just 20 yrds away and clearly dead). You never know for sure.
3. Quiet and still. The other deer may circle back. Or Mr Buck may still be on their trail.

*** Cut to the chase ***
Ok, what happened is while I hastily chambered a round after the misfire, the deer in my sights #2, had moved on and #3 stepped into place, the small one. Which turned out to be a button buck. A wee bit small.
Don't get me wrong, I'm totally grateful for the harvest. Just not the one I wanted.

By the way, the XP is a good bullet (aside from one misfire). Pinky finger entrance hole, two index finger size exit, thru both scapula bones. I hit a little high/forward and missed all vitals, but possibly hit spine.

But I do wonder if other hunters in the same spot could/would wait the full 30 secs before ejecting a misfire?

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congrats on sticking with it. I also just ejected my rounds immediately and didn't wait. I had a box of Remington Cor-lokt that had multiple misfires. It actually worked out well cuz it showed me I flinch pretty good. I was able to work through that and surprise myself with a slow trigger squeeze now. all thanks to poor QC at Remington!
 
My savage axis had this weird thing going on took it to the gunsmith he told me to use federal ammo apparently they have a softer primer it was a weird gun you had to really check the bolt was slam shut it had a stiff bolt on it mine was a 308 my dad has the 3006 does the samething bought me a patriot and want by another Savage
 
That should have gone. Would contact the manufacturer.

I don't wait on known misfires, I am racking the shell out and loading another.

As far as wait times, depends. If I just shot a buck with rifle, and he is clearly down, I don't usually wait long. With some of the bang flops I have had in recent years, I have watched the deer fall and watched for any movement for a few minutes and then gotten on down. I am usually pretty confident in my shot placement. If I were to shoot a doe, rare I do these days, I would wait (weather permitting) and continue hunting for a buck.

Congratulations on your deer.
 
Looks like the primer is seated further than the spent casing. I agree it should have went off but I wonder if the initial strike didn't seat the primer.


As far as waiting. In a hunting situation I'm ejecting as fast as possible. If for whatever reason that shell goes off outside of my gun I'm no really concerned. It may scare you, but the case and bullet will separate and not much more will happen. The casing may even fly off but not with enough velocity to matter
 
I'm running very late and get to my spot about 11:30 AM.
Its thick and nasty, lots of saplings, but it's great cover. The trail to a watering hole is to my front and right, about 30 yards away.
After setting up on the ground, sitting quiet and still for about 45 min, I see movement at about 30 yards forward and left. I release the safety and raise the gun.
I watch as 3 deer, one after another, come angling past me. I'm able to make out one at a time thru the trees, all does. The first 2 look biggish, the last is smaller (pass on her).
As the first one gets to a clear shooting lane I can't find her in the scope. Even set down to 3X it's hard to locate her. She's 20 yards and sees me move, she locks on to me.
I freeze for an eternal 5 secs.
Finally she breaks eye contact and walks past the shot window.
I get scoped in on the spot and #2 comes into view. Perfect!
She stops and looks my way... crosshairs on shoulder, I pull the trigger on my 308, with a 150 gr Winchester Deer Season XP.
CLICK!
Yep, misfire.
I look down and imediately guess what's happened. Do I wait 10 secs? 20 secs? 30 secs?
I will admit that I only did a fast (adrenaline boosted) count of 5!
Run the bolt to load a new round and as I'm finding the scope eye piece, I get an off eye glimpse of the deer looking directly at me.
What fantastic luck! She stayed put.
I find her shoulder and squeeze the trigger, BOOM!!!
Flop! No step, no leap, no nothing, just straight back, flopped over.
In the excitement, I notice 2 deer bolting further ahead of this one?!?
I watch and after a few seconds I see hooves kicking at the sky, just briefly. Then all is quiet again.
I'm so excited, this is the first deer with my rifle. A Mossberg Patriot 308. This is my 4th harvest in 6 years of hunting. This one looked like a hefty doe!
I force myself to recall advice from other seasoned hunters, as I am not.
1. Chamber another round.
2. Wait 15 min. (Even though its just 20 yrds away and clearly dead). You never know for sure.
3. Quiet and still. The other deer may circle back. Or Mr Buck may still be on their trail.

*** Cut to the chase ***
Ok, what happened is while I hastily chambered a round after the misfire, the deer in my sights #2, had moved on and #3 stepped into place, the small one. Which turned out to be a button buck. A wee bit small.
Don't get me wrong, I'm totally grateful for the harvest. Just not the one I wanted.

By the way, the XP is a good bullet (aside from one misfire). Pinky finger entrance hole, two index finger size exit, thru both scapula bones. I hit a little high/forward and missed all vitals, but possibly hit spine.

But I do wonder if other hunters in the same spot could/would wait the full 30 secs before ejecting a misfire?

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I hunt with the same rifle and ammo in 308. Mine has misfires 6 times already this year. Actually misfire yesterday morning on a doe and the pin hit the primer pretty good.
 
I hunt with the same rifle and ammo in 308. Mine has misfires 6 times already this year. Actually misfire yesterday morning on a doe and the pin hit the primer pretty good.
Something is definitely not right there. I have been hunting for over 40 years and can count on one hand the number of clicks when I expected boom from centerfire ammo.
 
Congrats on getting one for the freezer. Those buttons are tender and good eating so don't worry about it. It happens. Enjoyed your storytelling. Felt like I was in the brush with you. That's odd on the misfire. I've been shooting the same ammo in .270 for several years and been very happy with the results. It seems to really knock them down. I've yet to have one go more than 20-25 yards. A couple have dropped on the spot.
 
Congrats on the deer! I wonder if the ammo demand is affecting quality? Definitely let the manufacturer know about it. If I shoot a deer that close and its down, I wait a good 15 to 30 seconds before going after it.
 
This is partly why I load my own. If your chamber is particularly large and you are shooting factory ammo, the case has to slide forward when the firing pin strikes to make up this head space. That softens the blow to the primer. Factory ammo has to fit any .308 ever made and so it must be on the small side of specs.

It might be 1 in a million too. I would shoot more of that ammo to make sure it didn't happen again and cost you a good deer. Congratulations on your deer.
 

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