I guess I'm the chicken crap of the board when it comes to treestands. I had one fall with me when I first started hunting after I had ascended about 10 feet; just slipped back down the tree when I was trying to settle the bottom. Ever since then, when I start approaching the 10 feet mark, my legs get like jello and I usually can't go any higher than 12-15 feet. I've had to adapt to using tree cover to conceal me being so low but I have made it work quite a bit. Then again I've killed them sitting on the ground with my bow at 15 yards. Just be still and blend in.