Hunting Lease GuideLines and/or Rules

DeerWhisperer

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We are looking at a new deer lease and since i was the one who found the property, i have been ask to take the lead on establishing the rules, guidelines et; I have the official paperwork from the property owner concerning payment, insurance etc:

But they have asked me to come up with a listing of club rules. For example, ruling of bringing visitors, how often, how many. the amount of game a visitor can harvest.

We will establish our own size restrictions for deer and so forth but looking for guidance on some sample rules from other leases concerning general guidlines and rules.

Any help or direction would be appreicated.
 
We let guests come all they want. $25 per day

1 doe per guest. Once they kill a doe, they can't come back. No guests during turkey season.

I don't like guests as you can see but I don't like guests coming and reaping the rewards of a lot of hard work for a small price. Thats just my club. Everyone is different though.
 
I dont like a visitor policy. I say no visitor except for kids under 16.Any older and they can buy a membership just like everyone else. Some people get carried away with the visitor policy.
 
Good luck, nothing you write down will be appreciated or agreed with. Just say no visitors at all the property is not big enough to support the additional pressure.
 
Just make it clear what the guest rule is and clearly define it,
It's better just to say no guests in my opinion...
 
My rule is..you can bring a guest but whatever they kill counts towards your limit... For example if your statewide limit of turkey is 2 and you bring a guest and they kill one, its counts towards your limit of 2.. This only applies to the lease, some people have other places to hunt so it doesn't matter to me if they go kill 10 on their other property... I hope this makes sense. Also, I make sure everyone agrees on the rules and then when someone comes up complaining they are welcome to leave the lease, because everyone agreed on the rules in the first place.
 
I don't really like allowing guests in a club situation. One member may put a lot of time in patterning a big buck, guests shows up one day snd gets him. Or guest comes shoots a doe the doe is tracked all over carnation, put tons of scent in the area boogerin up everything... It's just not really fair to guys putting in work and money...
I could see allowing guests under a certain age..
 
cecil30-30 said:
I dont like a visitor policy. I say no visitor except for kids under 16.Any older and they can buy a membership just like everyone else. Some people get carried away with the visitor policy.


X2. and you better come up with a strict ATV use policy. I lease out farms to others, and i can attest that 90% of the landowner/member issues will arise due to atv use (misuse)
 
Personally, I like the ability to bring a limited number of visitors -- I trade hunts with a couple of my friends, which increases the number of different properties I get to hunt every year, plus it gives me the opportunity to (re)introduce people to the sport.

For our club, we are allowed to bring one guest twice a year, and he can shoot anything, but it comes out of the members bag (two bucks/unlimited does per year). Also, bringing a kid on the youth hunts doesn't count towards the two guest limit.

Some other things to consider:

- Stand "ownership" -- ie. if you put a stand on the lease, do you have first dibs on it or is it open to everyone equally?

- If two guys want to hunt the same stand, how do you decide who gets it?

- Allowed movement time -- ie. What is the latest time you can be on stand and what is the earliest time you can be off stand? You don't want people moving around the lease during the heart of hunting hours.

- Communication/coordination -- How to you let other members know when/where you're hunting? Do you meet up before the hunt or do it via text/email?

I'm sure there are tons of other ideas that folks will pipe up with. Obviously the bigger the club, the more/stricter rules you'll need. Nothing can suck the fun out of hunting faster than having a rules nazi, but even the smallest club needs at least some guidelines so that everyone is on the same sheet of music. It really just boils down to being polite to your fellow members and maximizing everyone's enjoyment.
 
You might get a set of rules they use on Ames Plantation. They have pretty much figured out every sort of problem that might arise with 100 hunters. They allow guests on specific dates which are not the busy times and guests kills and fines accrue to the member. Kids of certain age can hunt with parents anytime on their quota. No one has exclusive rights to a location; hunter etiquette applies. First come, first serve. Hunters are limited to two stands on the property. There are ATV restrictions to preserve the sanctity of the hunt. The more members you have the more rules that are necessary.
 
fairchaser said:
You might get a set of rules they use on Ames Plantation. They have pretty much figured out every sort of problem that might arise with 100 hunters. They allow guests on specific dates which are not the busy times and guests kills and fines accrue to the member. Kids of certain age can hunt with parents anytime on their quota. No one has exclusive rights to a location; hunter etiquette applies. First come, first serve. Hunters are limited to two stands on the property. There are ATV restrictions to preserve the sanctity of the hunt. The more members you have the more rules that are necessary.

i hear they are pretty thorough
 
Oh the joys of coming up with club rules to make everyone happy, that was the days. Glad it is just my dad, my brother and I in our lease now. We can pretty much work things out as we go and discuss bringing a guest as we have the need. We are allowed 2 bucks each and all know that if a guest we bring kills a buck, it counts toward one of ours. We typically only shoot one each anyway and sometimes 0.
 
I would say no guests

And decide on how your gonna decide who gets to hunt where,a deck of cards works,highest card picks first,etc,or a sign in board,who gets there first puts their "pin" in a certain spot works to.
 
The lease I'm on now is a family oriented lease not a trophy lease. We have over 1600 acres with 12 members. The rules are pretty simple as far as guest are concerned. First "guest" are really not allowed, but bring all the young ones you want. Heck you can even bring your husband or wife or dad or mom or granddad if you want just not every time and believe it or not no one has a problem with that. You can even bring someone just getting into hunting to help them learn something. When hunting season is over non members are allowed to ride horses on the property. There is no buck rule just that once you got your freezer meat or killed 2 bucks be selective in what you take. Been on others that for some reason a member (s) think they own a particular deer. Even was on one that the members were so uptight that at a meeting several wanted patrols at night during season. I have had more fun in the last 4 years I have been on this lease and have enjoyed being with other hunters who act the way most did in regards to respecting one another, being polite, helpful, and just good ole comrardary than I have had since this lease garbage has started. So in answer to your question you only got 2 options, run it as a family environment with a relaxed visitor rule or don't allow any at all to save yourself the headache of have to listen to all the whining and crying about "somebody's" deer bing shot by some one else. Personally I would rather have the fun lease over the one with the crybabies who think they "own" a particular animal. If you go with a strictly run lease I would also suggest that you get an arieal photo of the property and devide it into sections, asign each section a number and maximum numbers of hunters allowed on it per day, have a sign in sheet for each day and have each member sign in and out on that day with a time, allow one portable stand per hunter (to be taken out each day), have a harvest rule along with antler size and fine for not abiding to rules in place, tags made for vehicle of members, etc. Invited to hunt a lease set up like this and the retired biologist that ran it did it this way for two reasons, to manage the wildlife and shut the crybabies up. Good luck and I don't envey you on this task.
 
A good lease starts with good members. Nothing else matters if the members don't believe they can trust each other. It doesn't matter if you have no rules or lots of rules, if you don't have good people who can get along and trust each other.

Typically, when there are 4 or fewer "members" on a lease, there may be no need for any rules, since it's easy to coordinate everything with so few people. But for many of us, financial considerations would constrain us to a relatively small hunting acreage if only 4 of us were sharing the costs. Nothing wrong with hunting a smaller acreage, but if you're wanting to play a larger role in the actual deer management (not just the hunting), you will usually need at least several hundred acres.

Many hunters are getting about as much enjoyment from the deer management as the deer hunting. Larger tracts are needed for deer management, and generally the larger the tract, the more rewards can be more easily achieved for your efforts. If you have little interest in the herd management, you really just need a place to hunt, which really need not be a lease or a club.

On a lease of several hundred acres and more, there will generally be a need for at least several members. The more paying members you have, the less the cost can be per paying member. The fewer paying members you have, the more the cost, but the less need for any rules.

If you have 5 members paying all the costs for 1,000 acres, there may be little need for any rules or worries about guests. Things are much different if you have 20 or more members on that 1,000 acres, which may necessitate the need for limited or "no guest" policies, as well as other rules.

From a club management perspective, a "no guest" policy can be the fairest (everyone pays to play), and the easiest way to prevent potential problems among members. That does not mean it can't be "family" friendly. Some clubs simply have much lower dues for spouses and children, under which arrangement they are actually a special "member" rather than a guest.

One "work around" a "no guest" policy is to consider special but optional "guest" memberships (purchased by a member) which allows those members who want to bring a guest that privilege, but they pay extra for that privilege. And that "extra" allows the club to operate with fewer members when some members pay a lot extra so they can bring a guest.

So many different ways things can be done. I like keeping membership dues as low as possible per regular member and still have a quality and safe hunting situation. Those with hunting spouses and children pay only slightly more. Those who want to bring guests are allowed, but they pay extra for that privilege. Such an arrangement can keep a diverse membership happy, since some hunters may not have anyone they want to bring, and all their hunting buddies are also members.

From my observations, problems in clubs/leases have seldom had much to do with either any rules or a lack of rules, but more to do with the people having or causing the problems.
 
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