Agreed, and for the record my original post was tongue in cheek, and meant to start some discussion other than the bland loads/patterns etc that fill these forums before the season arrives.

I try and only shoot 4.5 year old bucks, sometimes I make a mistake and shoot a 3.5 year old buck, heck like most I've screwed up and killed them all the way down to buttons.

With turkeys it takes a better man and eye than mine to size up spurs in the woods. If his beard is long he dies, and a 2 year old bird is just as good to me as a bird with 1 1/2" spurs. I have killed loads of all of them, and don't really care as long as they play the game.