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Over the last few days, several people on here--myself included--have had problems with "experienced" people working on their equipment--I purposely let the person do what he did to mine just to see if he would screw it up again because, fortunately, I can fix it myself. I would strongly advise each of you to do some research and find out what is the "normal" setup for your equipment per the manufacturer before letting someone work on it. Most manufacturers have this information readily available, and if not, then call their tech department. Most bow's sweetspots will be found very, very near those "beginning" specs. Of course, there will always be exceptions to that rule but not most of the time. Don't feel bad about double checking the tech in front of him with a tape measure, or other devices--you are paying for his/her service and knowledge and you have to shoot it in the end, plus it will be your expense and hassle to return to have it corrected--same as when you have your vehicle worked on. Knowledge is your best defense against someone screwing up your setup.
 
Radar said:
DYI works for me . If a person knows so much about their bow , why not just do the work them selves ?

I do everything I can at home, I do have to go to the shop if a press is needed.

I have been looking into getting a press, but the ones I like seem to be out of my price range.
 
Why would you take your bow to the same guy who messed it up the first time?Especially when you have the knowledge and equipment to do it yourself.

Sounds like you have a grudge against him and just want to make him look bad.

Most here can see through this.
 
Mr.Bro said:
Why would you take your bow to the same guy who messed it up the first time?Especially when you have the knowledge and equipment to do it yourself.

Sounds like you have a grudge against him and just want to make him look bad.

Most here can see through this.

I created this post for every archer, everywhere, that may read this post as a general post for people to at least become somewhat familar with their specs/measurements, because I have seen many archers that are unaware of what their basic measurements are, or even what they should be. Even if they don't know how to adjust it themselves, if they take their equipment anywhere and if the bow is handed back to them and it's not close then question the work performed--nothing more, nothing less.

No grudge against him at all, and there is nothing to "see though", it just irritates me to no end to have someone that is a "professional" perform at the level he did on my bow and the other situation on here, as well as others I know of--especially when these bows are the same manufacturer he sells. I desperately would love to be able to support him, or anyone else for that matter that came along, and would do it in a minute because he really is a very nice guy, and because he really is the only game in town, but with the kind of work I personally have seen him do on mine and the tune of several Mathews Bows he has worked on that I have witnessed I cannot recommend him--I don't have to make him look bad, unfortunately the quality of his work is doing that. Like I have previously said, I honestly really like the guy, I just don't like the work I have witnessed and if the topic comes up, I will share my experiences with others just as others on here that have not had bad experiences shared theirs--why have you choosen not to question their motives? Have you never warned a friend about a product, or a service you have had problems with, based on your own experiences, if the topic comes up--sure you have! :)

If you would have read my original post ( http://www.tndeer.com/tndeertalk/ubbthr ... =2&fpart=2 2nd page) you would have noticed that I took it in strictly for warranty work and he said he could improve my setup--I never have and never will claim to know everything about archery, or anything else for that matter, because it changes too quickly. If a professional, that knows more than you, told you that they could help you improve your shooting would you not put the trust in them? Sure you would, I hope! Yes, he messed up the first time, but everyone has an "off" day and I took that into consideration. Everyone makes mistakes, but the same two mistakes years apart? To me, that is a pattern.
 
TNDeerGuy said:
Mr.Bro said:
Why would you take your bow to the same guy who messed it up the first time?Especially when you have the knowledge and equipment to do it yourself.

Sounds like you have a grudge against him and just want to make him look bad.

Most here can see through this.

I created this post for every archer, everywhere, that may read this post as a general post for people to at least become somewhat familar with their specs/measurements, because I have seen many archers that are unaware of what their basic measurements are, or even what they should be. Even if they don't know how to adjust it themselves, if they take their equipment anywhere and if the bow is handed back to them and it's not close then question the work performed--nothing more, nothing less.

No grudge against him at all, and there is nothing to "see though", it just irritates me to no end to have someone that is a "professional" perform at the level he did on my bow and the other situation on here, as well as others I know of--especially when these bows are the same manufacturer he sells. I desperately would love to be able to support him, or anyone else for that matter that came along, and would do it in a minute because he really is a very nice guy, and because he really is the only game in town, but with the kind of work I personally have seen him do on mine and the tune of several Mathews Bows he has worked on that I have witnessed I cannot recommend him--I don't have to make him look bad, unfortunately the quality of his work is doing that. Like I have previously said, I honestly really like the guy, I just don't like the work I have witnessed and if the topic comes up, I will share my experiences with others just as others on here that have not had bad experiences shared theirs--why have you choosen not to question their motives? Have you never warned a friend about a product, or a service you have had problems with, based on your own experiences, if the topic comes up--sure you have! :)

If you would have read my original post ( http://www.tndeer.com/tndeertalk/ubbthr ... =2&fpart=2 2nd page) you would have noticed that I took it in strictly for warranty work and he said he could improve my setup--I never have and never will claim to know everything about archery, or anything else for that matter, because it changes too quickly. If a professional, that knows more than you, told you that they could help you improve your shooting would you not put the trust in them? Sure you would, I hope! Yes, he messed up the first time, but everyone has an "off" day and I took that into consideration. Everyone makes mistakes, but the same two mistakes years apart? To me, that is a pattern.

From what I have been told by a few friends on here , Jeremy at the Archery Den does good work . Now , I haven't been to the Archery Den , but I will take their trusted word.
If you have a problem with his work , why not take it up with him in person instead of a public forum ? He is a member of this forum , so he will probably catch wind of this thread sooner or later .
 
Mr.Bro said:
Why would you take your bow to the same guy who messed it up the first time?Especially when you have the knowledge and equipment to do it yourself.

Sounds like you have a grudge against him and just want to make him look bad.

Most here can see through this.

Exactly! Jeremy is one of the best "bowguys" I have ever used. He is not egotistical and, as UTGrad said, very professional. I don't understand why anyone, legitimate complaint or not, in today's economic crisis, would want to get on an open forum and throw someone under the bus, other than for personal reasons. And personal issues should be taken up with the person(s) rather than on an open forum. JMHO.
 
Couldn't have been said better. After a small issue I got my bow fixed by Jeremy today & it is perfect. I challenge the naysayers to run an extremely busy bow shop like Jeremy's. I bet my house you won't be perfect nor make everyone happy. Thank you Knothead for making a great point.
 

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