well after shooting Hoyt , Mathews , Pse , Ross ,Martin and Alpine I settled on a new 1 .Picked up the Alpine Silverado Match , no hand torque with the grip, smoothest out there , comes in a pkg with good accessories , looks good , fast ,virtually quiet and shock free . Brace hieght is over 7" . These bows have the least complaints and high reviews .I am suprised they are not considered in the top 3 manufacturers.If you get a chance shoot 1 , you will buy it and save $.