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danny1975

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Looking for a good cam that takes good pics pics at night . All the ones I have now there blury . Any suggestions ?
 
I use the m80 moultries.......love the day pics, the night pics are not great quality......still I use cams to see what size bucks I have and I am not upset over low light ones but I will say that many of them don't take well at all....not sure why.
 
See my covert don't take we'll at all . And my spypoint if there really close there ok . Wonder if I get a cam where that anti blur would help
 
Three types of trail-cam night picture illumination exist: white flash, red-glow (so-called IR or "infra-red"), and black-flash (also called "no glow"). Each has its strengths and weaknesses.

White-flash is like a standard camera, producing a bright flash of light at night. Because digital imagers are most sensitive to visible light, digital trail-cams will take the best night-time pictures with white-flash illumination. The visible light allows clear, crisp, color pictures with a fast exposure time, hence no motion blur. In addition, white flash produces the greatest flash illumination distances (how far the illumination penetrates into the dark). The down-sides to white-flash are battery usage and deer reaction. The flash of visible light requires a lot of battery power, rapidly burning up batteries. In addition, deer WILL react negatively to the flash of bright light, both jumping away from the camera, and later avoiding the camera all together. Humans will also notice white-flash, making cameras obvious to trespassers/thieves.

Red-glow, or so-called IR cameras use a combination of visible red light and infra-red light for night-time illumination. Digital imagers are much less sensitive to infra-red light, which means the images are less crisp and clear than when visible light is used. Not only are red-glow night pictures less crisp, they are black and white, illumination distances are not as great, and longer exposure times are needed, hence some motion blur occurs. In addition, deer can still see the red light used in red-glow cams and tend to avoid these cameras just as much as they do white-flash cameras (although deer rarely bolt away from red-glow flash like with white-flash). The positives to red-glow is extremely long battery life, a flash that is far less noticeable to trespassers, and very low cost.

Black-flash cams only use invisible infra-red light (invisible to both humans and deer) for night-time illumination. However, digital imagers are the least sensitive to true infra-red light, meaning a lot of infra-red light is required to produce an image, both in intensity and duration (exposure time). Because of the imagers lack of sensitivity to true infra-red light, the night images are the poorest of all illumination types, long exposure times produce a lot of motion blur, and illumination distances are very short (usually only 40-50 feet (about 15 yards). The high intensity infra-red light required also requires far more battery power than the red light of red-glow cams. The positive to black-flash is no visible light to alert deer or trespassers. The difference in repeat visits by hunter-wary deer to the camera site can be truly significant when using black-flash cams.


So in summary:


White-flash

Pros: Great quality color night-time pictures, long flash illumination distances into the dark, no motion blur, and relatively inexpensive.

Cons: Often dramatic negative reactions to the flash by deer, deer avoidance of the camera over time, short battery life, and highly visible to human trespassers/thieves.


Red-glow

Pros: very long battery life, relatively inexpensive, and much less visible to trespassers.

Cons: Deer still see and avoid the flash, less illumination distance, and poorer quality black-and-white images with some motion blur.


Black-flash: flash invisible to deer and people.

Cons: Very short illumination distances, poorest quality images with significant motion-blur, considerable battery power required, and fairly expensive technology.
 
BSK said:
Three types of trail-cam night picture illumination exist: white flash, red-glow (so-called IR or "infra-red"), and black-flash (also called "no glow"). Each has its strengths and weaknesses.

White-flash is like a standard camera, producing a bright flash of light at night. Because digital imagers are most sensitive to visible light, digital trail-cams will take the best night-time pictures with white-flash illumination. The visible light allows clear, crisp, color pictures with a fast exposure time, hence no motion blur. In addition, white flash produces the greatest flash illumination distances (how far the illumination penetrates into the dark). The down-sides to white-flash are battery usage and deer reaction. The flash of visible light requires a lot of battery power, rapidly burning up batteries. In addition, deer WILL react negatively to the flash of bright light, both jumping away from the camera, and later avoiding the camera all together. Humans will also notice white-flash, making cameras obvious to trespassers/thieves.

Red-glow, or so-called IR cameras use a combination of visible red light and infra-red light for night-time illumination. Digital imagers are much less sensitive to infra-red light, which means the images are less crisp and clear than when visible light is used. Not only are red-glow night pictures less crisp, they are black and white, illumination distances are not as great, and longer exposure times are needed, hence some motion blur occurs. In addition, deer can still see the red light used in red-glow cams and tend to avoid these cameras just as much as they do white-flash cameras (although deer rarely bolt away from red-glow flash like with white-flash). The positives to red-glow is extremely long battery life, a flash that is far less noticeable to trespassers, and very low cost.

Black-flash cams only use invisible infra-red light (invisible to both humans and deer) for night-time illumination. However, digital imagers are the least sensitive to true infra-red light, meaning a lot of infra-red light is required to produce an image, both in intensity and duration (exposure time). Because of the imagers lack of sensitivity to true infra-red light, the night images are the poorest of all illumination types, long exposure times produce a lot of motion blur, and illumination distances are very short (usually only 40-50 feet (about 15 yards). The high intensity infra-red light required also requires far more battery power than the red light of red-glow cams. The positive to black-flash is no visible light to alert deer or trespassers. The difference in repeat visits by hunter-wary deer to the camera site can be truly significant when using black-flash cams.


So in summary:


White-flash

Pros: Great quality color night-time pictures, long flash illumination distances into the dark, no motion blur, and relatively inexpensive.

Cons: Often dramatic negative reactions to the flash by deer, deer avoidance of the camera over time, short battery life, and highly visible to human trespassers/thieves.


Red-glow

Pros: very long battery life, relatively inexpensive, and much less visible to trespassers.

Cons: Deer still see and avoid the flash, less illumination distance, and poorer quality black-and-white images with some motion blur.


Black-flash: flash invisible to deer and people.

Cons: Very short illumination distances, poorest quality images with significant motion-blur, considerable battery power required, and fairly expensive technology.

Do you prefer black flash? I can't get over the idea of extremely blurry night pics. I can see them working fine at a salt lick, foodplot or cornpile, but scrape and trail setups seem like the bucks movement might be a problem..especially since 99% of 4.5+ bucks will only walk in front of the camera at night.
 
Master Chief said:
Do you prefer black flash? I can't get over the idea of extremely blurry night pics. I can see them working fine at a salt lick, foodplot or cornpile, but scrape and trail setups seem like the bucks movement might be a problem..especially since 99% of 4.5+ bucks will only walk in front of the camera at night.

I ONLY use black-flash these days. Considering SD cards will hold an astounding number of pictures, I just set my cams with very short delays and the maximum burst-mode pictures the camera will take per trigger. That means deleting or looking through a bunch of motion-blurred pictures, but all I need is one good one per event.

And one other thing to add, I've purchased several black-flash flash extenders. Those things are AMAZING at throwing black-flash light out at a distance. I use the flash extenders when pointing black-flash cams into openings or food plots. I'm getting usable (for identifying a buck) night-time pictures at more than 100 feet.
 
danny1975 said:
Thanks again bsk . I got a. Black flash and ir cams . Where did you get the black flash extenders

These days, I'm buying all my trail-cams and equipment from Rick at camoutdoorstore.com. He's great to work with, good prices, and VERY fast shipping service. If I order from him on a Monday, I've got my order by Thursday.
 
BSK said:
danny1975 said:
Thanks again bsk . I got a. Black flash and ir cams . Where did you get the black flash extenders

These days, I'm buying all my trail-cams and equipment from Rick at camoutdoorstore.com. He's great to work with, good prices, and VERY fast shipping service. If I order from him on a Monday, I've got my order by Thursday.

He has a really good deal on the Moultrie M-990i. A free SD card is nice too
 
Master Chief said:
BSK said:
danny1975 said:
Thanks again bsk . I got a. Black flash and ir cams . Where did you get the black flash extenders

These days, I'm buying all my trail-cams and equipment from Rick at camoutdoorstore.com. He's great to work with, good prices, and VERY fast shipping service. If I order from him on a Monday, I've got my order by Thursday.

He has a really good deal on the Moultrie M-990i. A free SD card is nice too

Ok . Thanks for the help
 
Master Chief said:
BSK said:
danny1975 said:
Thanks again bsk . I got a. Black flash and ir cams . Where did you get the black flash extenders

These days, I'm buying all my trail-cams and equipment from Rick at camoutdoorstore.com. He's great to work with, good prices, and VERY fast shipping service. If I order from him on a Monday, I've got my order by Thursday.

He has a really good deal on the Moultrie M-990i. A free SD card is nice too

He said the new Moultries and Coverts are selling like crazy. He can't keep the Covert MMS in stock.
 
BSK said:
danny1975 said:
Thanks again bsk . I got a. Black flash and ir cams . Where did you get the black flash extenders

These days, I'm buying all my trail-cams and equipment from Rick at camoutdoorstore.com. He's great to work with, good prices, and VERY fast shipping service. If I order from him on a Monday, I've got my order by Thursday.
. Thanks I ordered a m990i . I'm going to give it a try
 

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