I started out with the Groundpounder over the rail mount. Worked fine just added too much weight. Then used the Wyvern mount for awhile. It puts the quiver a little more out to the side and only works on the older Excalibur bows with the dove tail. Neither of those are made anymore. Then went to the Munch mount. Didn't add too much weight and didn't get in the way but like you I decided I didn't want anything extra on the bow and went with the Sidewinder hip mount adapter which can be swiveled forward or backward. Didn't get around to trying the Danny Miller mount. A lot of people like it better than the Munch.