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winston 1td, 4 ints so far. it is actually hard to watch, but i can't look away lol
winston 1td, 4 ints so far. it is actually hard to watch, but i can't look away lol
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THEdonkey0515
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Wow Winston has now thrown more picks then TDs :lol: 6Tds 7picks
Mariota does have a good bills defense to face next week. But heck he could throw 5 picks next week, And still have better #'s then Winston :rotf:
Mariota does have a good bills defense to face next week. But heck he could throw 5 picks next week, And still have better #'s then Winston :rotf:
baddnole
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I'd be happy to trade Lovie for Butch, any day,anywayTHEdonkey0515":1jwbr4mm said:
The Bucs are hard to watch.Glad redblood was watching so he knows not all all Winston. You forgot about the fumbled center snap. :tu:
bad tbaddnole":3tnuukyc said:
they are a bad team. This is Lovies last year. Mariota winning rookie of the year will seal his fate. Winston was terrible, but it wasn't all on him. still he telegraphed some slow motion passes right to the panthers secondary.
THEdonkey0515
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I keep hearing the bucs are awful so that is the reason for Winston being awful.
I would by into that if the titans were not awful themselves. They are a 1-2 team at the moment with there only win being over the awful bucs. Titans will probably ( I hope not) go 1-4 after the buffalo & Miami games.
Then they get the 4-0 falcons in Atlanta
They also get the pats in week 15 :shock: so. Yeah titans will go down as one of the worst teams in 2015.
Mariota has a below average receivers (besides Wright)
1 good tightend ( who has missed a game already)
Below average run game
Below average defense
Average oline (which is beat up & missing starters) so probably a below average last game or two.
I posted after watching a game in the Preseason that Winston panics under pass pressure
But mariota has held his own made smart plays (something Winston has not done) has a much faster release. And don't telegraph passes near as bad as Winston.
Mariota has been pressured, and sacked to Browns about took him out.
Colts sacked him/ Put pressure on him
I've watched a couple bucs game this year, Seen plays were he had time in the pocket but telegraphed his passes so bad the broadcasters called him out.
Titans would have picked him again if they had a secondary worth a crap lol he stared down a receiver so bad everyone in the stadium knew were he was gonna go. It bounced off two titans before being caught by a buc.
I would by into that if the titans were not awful themselves. They are a 1-2 team at the moment with there only win being over the awful bucs. Titans will probably ( I hope not) go 1-4 after the buffalo & Miami games.
Then they get the 4-0 falcons in Atlanta
They also get the pats in week 15 :shock: so. Yeah titans will go down as one of the worst teams in 2015.
Mariota has a below average receivers (besides Wright)
1 good tightend ( who has missed a game already)
Below average run game
Below average defense
Average oline (which is beat up & missing starters) so probably a below average last game or two.
I posted after watching a game in the Preseason that Winston panics under pass pressure
But mariota has held his own made smart plays (something Winston has not done) has a much faster release. And don't telegraph passes near as bad as Winston.
Mariota has been pressured, and sacked to Browns about took him out.
Colts sacked him/ Put pressure on him
I've watched a couple bucs game this year, Seen plays were he had time in the pocket but telegraphed his passes so bad the broadcasters called him out.
Titans would have picked him again if they had a secondary worth a crap lol he stared down a receiver so bad everyone in the stadium knew were he was gonna go. It bounced off two titans before being caught by a buc.
baddnole
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Jameis had a bad day, no question, with four picks. Guess what? John Elway and Troy Aikman and Cam Newton also had four picks when they were rookies. Hell, Peyton Manning had four picks in his third season as a pro; Elway also had four picks on his final game of his second season, and Jameis is only in his fourth game and first against a good team for crying out loud.
Not saying Jameis will be a Hall of Famer, but calm down haters! This is what rookie quarterbacks do. Up and down.
Anyone notice how Jameis was a perfect 6-for-6 on an 80-yard scoring drive? Guess not.
Anyone notice that Jameis has as many touchdown passes this year as Peyton Manning and more touchdowns passes than Joe Flacco, Andrew Luck and Teddy Bridgewater? Guess not.
So the Bucs have reached the quarter pole of 2015, a good gauge to see how the team is doing.
In short, pathetic.
In fact, under Bucs coach Lovie Smith, the Bucs are in one of their worst periods in franchise history. This is not empty rhetoric. The numbers speak for themselves.
Only original coach John McKay, who started with the birth of the franchise and did not have the luxury of free agency, had a worse start. McKay was winless in his first 20 games. So let's take a look at how each Bucs coach fared in his first 20 games.
Chucky 16-4 (includes three postseason wins his first year)
Tony Dungy 10-10
Greg Schiano 7-13
Raheem Morris 6-14
Ray Perkins 6-14
Sam Wyche 6-14
Richard Williamson 4-15 (only coached 19 games)
Leeman Bennett 3-17
Lovie Smith 3-17
John McKay 0-20
After yesterday's debacle, let's just say Lovie Watch is on. Bucs lack the team identity that successful teams have. Not talking about a loser's mentality. Of our 24 starters yesterday (offense, defense, kicker & punter) 20 of them have been with the Bucs either 1 or 2 years (including this year). That's well over 80% of our starting team is either 0 or 1 full year in the Bucs system. (VJax, Martin, McCoy and David are the only ones with 4+ years with the Bucs).
Not saying Jameis will be a Hall of Famer, but calm down haters! This is what rookie quarterbacks do. Up and down.
Anyone notice how Jameis was a perfect 6-for-6 on an 80-yard scoring drive? Guess not.
Anyone notice that Jameis has as many touchdown passes this year as Peyton Manning and more touchdowns passes than Joe Flacco, Andrew Luck and Teddy Bridgewater? Guess not.
So the Bucs have reached the quarter pole of 2015, a good gauge to see how the team is doing.
In short, pathetic.
In fact, under Bucs coach Lovie Smith, the Bucs are in one of their worst periods in franchise history. This is not empty rhetoric. The numbers speak for themselves.
Only original coach John McKay, who started with the birth of the franchise and did not have the luxury of free agency, had a worse start. McKay was winless in his first 20 games. So let's take a look at how each Bucs coach fared in his first 20 games.
Chucky 16-4 (includes three postseason wins his first year)
Tony Dungy 10-10
Greg Schiano 7-13
Raheem Morris 6-14
Ray Perkins 6-14
Sam Wyche 6-14
Richard Williamson 4-15 (only coached 19 games)
Leeman Bennett 3-17
Lovie Smith 3-17
John McKay 0-20
After yesterday's debacle, let's just say Lovie Watch is on. Bucs lack the team identity that successful teams have. Not talking about a loser's mentality. Of our 24 starters yesterday (offense, defense, kicker & punter) 20 of them have been with the Bucs either 1 or 2 years (including this year). That's well over 80% of our starting team is either 0 or 1 full year in the Bucs system. (VJax, Martin, McCoy and David are the only ones with 4+ years with the Bucs).
THEdonkey0515
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I know Winston's #'s Are not that horrible for a rookie I mean there pretty bad, But not horrible.
I know Winston can POSSIBLY turn it around, And become a really good player.
But the fact is at this moment in time Winston is getting out played By a guy who Never ran a pro style offense! Who never even called plays in a freaking huddle! Who was not supposed to be a pocket passer. A guy who was drafted AFTER Winston.
That's why I find it funny Winston is at 6Tds 7picks
While mariota has been rookie of the month, player of the week. been on the cover of SI magazine, And has thrown 8tds 2picks.
You can look 5 years down the road and say this and that, Cool just a guess. I'm talking about right now.
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But to me the Hype about Winston being "a NFL ready QB" and all the other Hype.
Was as correct, as all the Hype Tennessee football was getting this year
I know Winston can POSSIBLY turn it around, And become a really good player.
But the fact is at this moment in time Winston is getting out played By a guy who Never ran a pro style offense! Who never even called plays in a freaking huddle! Who was not supposed to be a pocket passer. A guy who was drafted AFTER Winston.
That's why I find it funny Winston is at 6Tds 7picks
While mariota has been rookie of the month, player of the week. been on the cover of SI magazine, And has thrown 8tds 2picks.
You can look 5 years down the road and say this and that, Cool just a guess. I'm talking about right now.
Í
But to me the Hype about Winston being "a NFL ready QB" and all the other Hype.
Was as correct, as all the Hype Tennessee football was getting this year
Mudbone
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If he keeps this up he's gonna take mariota's ESPN job.
lovie cant coach period
winston cant play
winston cant play
baddnole
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Mudbone":3qwt8tws said:
◙ ← Finally found the ignore button. :tu:
baddnole
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THEdonkey0515":3bjt0nn2 said:I know Winston's #'s Are not that horrible for a rookie I mean there pretty bad, But not horrible.
I know Winston can POSSIBLY turn it around, And become a really good player.
But the fact is at this moment in time Winston is getting out played By a guy who Never ran a pro style offense! Who never even called plays in a freaking huddle! Who was not supposed to be a pocket passer. A guy who was drafted AFTER Winston.
That's why I find it funny Winston is at 6Tds 7picks
While mariota has been rookie of the month, player of the week. been on the cover of SI magazine, And has thrown 8tds 2picks.
You can look 5 years down the road and say this and that, Cool just a guess. I'm talking about right now.
Í
But to me the Hype about Winston being "a NFL ready QB" and all the other Hype.
Was as correct, as all the Hype Tennessee football was getting this year
So what you are saying is Titans are 1-2 and the Bucs are 1-3 :tu:
THEdonkey0515
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Yup, both teams suck!baddnole":387nr817 said:THEdonkey0515":387nr817 said:I know Winston's #'s Are not that horrible for a rookie I mean there pretty bad, But not horrible.
I know Winston can POSSIBLY turn it around, And become a really good player.
But the fact is at this moment in time Winston is getting out played By a guy who Never ran a pro style offense! Who never even called plays in a freaking huddle! Who was not supposed to be a pocket passer. A guy who was drafted AFTER Winston.
That's why I find it funny Winston is at 6Tds 7picks
While mariota has been rookie of the month, player of the week. been on the cover of SI magazine, And has thrown 8tds 2picks.
You can look 5 years down the road and say this and that, Cool just a guess. I'm talking about right now.
Í
But to me the Hype about Winston being "a NFL ready QB" and all the other Hype.
Was as correct, as all the Hype Tennessee football was getting this year
So what you are saying is Titans are 1-2 and the Bucs are 1-3 :tu:
One just has a better QB then the other :lol:
And titan fans don't use the excuse THE TEAM sucks for mariota's few mistakes :rotf:
baddnole
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Yup, both teams suck!
One just has a better QB then the other :lol:
And titan fans don't use the excuse THE TEAM sucks for mariota's few mistakes :rotf:
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Well the Bucs do suck and its a long year :rotf: :tu:
If Mariota's going to survive the season, he can't continue to take a beating like he has so far. Mariota's been sacked 12 times in three games, and he's been hit a bunch more. He's on track to be sacked 64 times in 16 games. The Titans can't afford to let that happen.
Slow starts
The Titans began the season on fire, outscoring the Buccaneers 21-0 in the first 15 minutes of the season. The Titans have been outscored 21-0 in the first quarter since. They've dropped passes, and made too many mistakes at the start of games. Playing catch up isn't the way to go. :tu:
One just has a better QB then the other :lol:
And titan fans don't use the excuse THE TEAM sucks for mariota's few mistakes :rotf:
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Well the Bucs do suck and its a long year :rotf: :tu:
If Mariota's going to survive the season, he can't continue to take a beating like he has so far. Mariota's been sacked 12 times in three games, and he's been hit a bunch more. He's on track to be sacked 64 times in 16 games. The Titans can't afford to let that happen.
Slow starts
The Titans began the season on fire, outscoring the Buccaneers 21-0 in the first 15 minutes of the season. The Titans have been outscored 21-0 in the first quarter since. They've dropped passes, and made too many mistakes at the start of games. Playing catch up isn't the way to go. :tu:
THEdonkey0515
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baddnole":4p4cx2vw said:
THEdonkey0515
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OK? I don't know were that stuff came from? Not me?baddnole":uz8xpg5z said:
Buc fans or Winston fans, say Wimstons #'s are only like that because his teams sucks!
That's what I was saying.
But mariota's team sucks, But His playing at a mucm much MUCH higher lever then Winston is all I was saying
Glad you found some post about titans not scoring points in the first Quarter, and mariota getting pressure which I stated before
baddnole
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redblood":2c80ffz4 said:
With all these stats y'all keep on Winston,when are you gonna add in Mariota fumble turnovers that have led to losses. Just as bad as picks if we're keeping score. :tu:
