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deerjackie

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has anyone ever handloaded a bottleneck rifle shell and go by the book on col,oal every instruction with dies,seating primers under flush and the rounds are chambering harder than factory loads. inked the bullet no marks. inked the shoulder and its marking the shoulder pretty good. 25-06 round.rp brass. nothing terrible but i would like to correct it. no crimp by the way. thanks for the help.dj
 
Well, you did not say if you full length or neck sized.
The shoulder may need pushed back just a tad. Died may not be
sizing the case enough.

Try adjusting the die again. If the shell going almost in and
then getting tight, if so, i would guess die adjustments.

Check your case for overall lengh after they are resized.
 
cdw338 said:
Well, you did not say if you full length or neck sized.
The shoulder may need pushed back just a tad. Died may not be
sizing the case enough.

Try adjusting the die again. If the shell going almost in and
then getting tight, if so, i would guess die adjustments.

Check your case for overall lengh after they are resized.
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they have been trimmed. always trim after full length resizing. tried diff dies same cal. running dies down till it touches shell holder then 1/4 turn more. following instructions to a tee.
 
I had same thing happen today with my 7mm Rem Mag reloads. All brass was fired 1x in same rifle. Did not run through full-length die but did trim to correct over-all case length. Had to really shove the bolt home hard to get it to close. (I cycled a couple through without firing and measured them to verify bullet had not got pushed farther into the case). 160 gr Sierra Speer BT with 57.7 grains IMR4831. Shot 1 1/2 inch groups at 200 yds out of my Savage 110, and I wasn't really taking my time with the shots.

I did notice the shoulder appeared more sharp than other rounds I'd loaded into brass that had been through full-length die. The shoulder had a slight radius on those.
 
Were the cases fired in the same rifle or another? If they came from the same gun, then something is not right somewhere since they would be fire formed to fit your chamber perfectly.

OAL will not necessarily the same with every bullet depending on the taper of the nose. The bullet itself may be engaging the rifling if set too long. Ink the bullet and see if that is the case. If so, set the bullet deeper in the case.
 
Mausermeister said:
Were the cases fired in the same rifle or another? If they came from the same gun, then something is not right somewhere since they would be fire formed to fit your chamber perfectly.

OAL will not necessarily the same with every bullet depending on the taper of the nose. The bullet itself may be engaging the rifling if set too long. Ink the bullet and see if that is the case. If so, set the bullet deeper in the case.
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I was having the same problem with my 270. I had some older 270 dies that were not full length sizing and was very tight to chamber a round. I bought some new dies and the problem was solved.
 
i inked the bullet and no contact is showing, book calls for 3.190 oal on nos bt and thats where it is. just watched lee videos and may have found i am not carrying shellholder all the way up to the properly adjusted die. going to shed to reload another empty. thanks
 
deerjackie said:
they have been trimmed. always trim after full length resizing. tried diff dies same cal. running dies down till it touches shell holder then 1/4 turn more. following instructions to a tee.
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Did you double check to see if the dies was still in contact with your shell holder while resizeing the case??

Sometimes you have to turn them more than the 1/4 turn mentioned,not that much or non at all.

You could also have the seater die set wrong esp if crimping make sure it ain't crimping,if set for too much crimp it can bulge the case at the shoulder/body area.

Could also be seating bullets to fast esp with near full capacity charges,this too can casue bulgeing.
 
i have crimper backed off.i got out lee lube to prevent any hydraulic dents and made sure there was no light between shell holder and die while re sizing. i think this has stemmed from not having dies set correctly before and using oil base lube and getting dents so i got part of it figured out. they are all chambering. every round has 1/4 in up from rim that looks untouched by die. is this normal? like i said die and shell holder are in full contact on the upstroke. oal is good. col was good. running 80% capacity. no bulges. not every round is doing this. thanks
 
got it all worked out. changed lube,re set dies and prechecked every round before and after seating bullets . all are fine. thans for all the help.
 
deerjackie said:
....i got out lee lube to prevent any hydraulic dents.....i think this has stemmed from not having dies set correctly before and using oil base lube and getting dents.....
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Have read you got your trouble worked out. Good

However just a little info to share on the above. The Type lube dosen't matter with haveing dents To Much on the case does,or not allowing time for the lube to dry right.

I have used a good many types and brands over the years and have had the resized dents with all of them. ;)

Alot of good infromation in this thread.
 
deerjackie said:
got it all worked out. changed lube,re set dies and prechecked every round before and after seating bullets . all are fine. thans for all the help.
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Glade u got it worked out.
I still precheck all my hunting rounds in the chamber.
I also use a hybrid sizing technic of my fire-formed brass. I back the dies off a bit, but a little more than just neck sizing.
 

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