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Run and Gun v.s. Sitting Tight......

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which do you prefer......?

I realize that tukey hunting is different in different areas....

Some of you probably hunt open terrain where some of us (me) hunt thick timber.

The problem with hunting thick timber over open terrain is the simple fact that most times you can't see the turkeys until they get within shooting range. This is a distinct disadvantage, IMO.

While hunting open areas, I'm sure that being able to view large areas at one ti me helps you locate birds and being able to watch them as they come to you or ignore you is great. Especially when they decide to come in quiet, or just not gobble at all.

Until you have sit against a tree in an area where you "just might" be able to see 30-40 yards in every drection and listen as a tom gets closer (within 100 yards ) and then he shuts up and never gobbles again, then you don't know what tension is....haha. Being afraid to move so much a finger, waiting for thirty minutes to an hour without calling or anything makes for some intense hunting. What makes it so bad is that on more than one occasion, I have moved after an hour or so in an attempt to find another bird and been busted by turkeys that were just out of my sight that I had no idea were even there.

For this very reason, I am changing my strategy for this season.

before the season, I plan to go to Chaney and set up a few blinds in thick cover where I normally see turkeys while deer hunting. Most of these areas are near known roosts and close to open fields where turkeys are often seen and/or heard.

I plan to get in there well before daylight and hunt them like I would a deer. I plan to set up a few decoys and just sit and wait. I know some cane thickets that would be great spots to hide a small blind.

These areas are always great places to find feathers. Most are near swamps where trukeys like to roost. One place, I saw tons of turkeys there this past deer season.

I just think that with the type of terrain I am hunting and the way these birds have learned to be pretty slick and quiet (growing up in thick cover)that my best bet for success is simply to sit and wait.

My first ever turkey kill was using the run and gun method.....

I have used that method where I hunt now, but when you stand along the road and hear 10-15 toms gobbling around you at daylight, then which one do you go after and once you get busted chasing him, how do you get on another bird?

I've also learned down there that bachelor toms seem to have a set pattern to their "searching" for hens. Most of these patterns follow ridges in the bottoms. IMO, setting up an ambush point on one of these known areas would be a good idea. Sort of like deer hunting, you may not see or hear turkeys every day, but you just might be set up for a couple of kills simply by sitting tight and letting the birds come to you.

BH
 
I've hunted situations exactly like yours. When I plan on hunting timber, I go in expecting to stay all day. I've had several toms gobble over the years and stay at that out of sight distance. Knowing that this can and will happen, I sit and scratch around in the leaves. Sometimes this brings them in, sometimes it doesn't. What has happened is two or three hours later with some low calling new birds come in, or what I think are new birds. Could be the same one. What I'm trying to say is be patient. Only on few occasions have nothing come in throughout the day. I know every area is different, but patience does pay off.

Also, where I hunt the turkeys change roosting sites from where I see them during deer season. Not far away, but different ridges. Don't be surprised if they change on you. Good luck!
 
Adaptability is key. I've taken turkeys both ways, as well as several other methods. It all depends on what stage of the breeding season they are in. Decoy spreads with a blind at the start of the season when gobblers are still in a "fighting" mood, have been the demise of many a longbeard. While "sitting" over known strut zones mid to late morning have taken several as well. Also, there's just something about "striking" a bird and having him come in JARRING the ground that fuels me to run'n gun in the afternoons during mid to late season. And yet, I'm not above ambushing one; especially if I can spot him before he spots me. Whatever the method, I just love it. IMO, turkey hunting is second only to deer hunting.
 
No two birds are the same. So no set method. Does a hen stay in one spot? I will move even if its just 10 yds. An old mature gobbler knows the difference in a hunter in one spot going yep yep yep every so many min. I had an old mature gobbler that could hear me in the leaves crawling. He finally broke my way once he heard me on my belly crawling toward him. he gobbles at 10 yds. I ease up bang! But on the other hand , I have been sitting against a tree doing nothing, done gave up only to hear something walking toward me. But if one way was full proof we could only go hunting 4 times a year.lol
 
I do both depending on my mood. If i hear birds in an area in the morning I usually will sit tight and wait. If the woods are dead I run and run and run until I find something or get so tired I then sit back down and wait...
 
Like everyone else has said, there's a time to run and gun and a time to sit tight. People who get up and move, just to move, without considering the lay of the land, what the turkey is doing, and how far away birds can see them from, will bump more turkeys that they will kill. I've killed birds after sitting in the same spot for 2 or 3 hrs. And I've killed them BECAUSE I moved. Many times I've left a bird that I could tell had hens with him and couldn't get them to cooperate, and left to find a hot tom, called him up and killed him. So to answer your question, I prefer...both. :)
 
Both is the best. You just need to figure what is best for the particular situation. If I was going to sit, I would much prefer open areas to sit and wait in.
I will also do more sitting if Im on a smaller property, like under 250 acres or so. You will educate birds real quick on a small tract if you run and gun too much. Theres just a time and place for everything.
 
steven stone said:
Both is the best. You just need to figure what is best for the particular situation. If I was going to sit, I would much prefer open areas to sit and wait in.
I will also do more sitting if Im on a smaller property, like under 250 acres or so. You will educate birds real quick on a small tract if you run and gun too much. Theres just a time and place for everything.

Well said. The farms I hunt are pretty small. 35 acres is the biggest. Over the years I finally learned that bumping the birds by being too aggressive has educated them way too much. However there have been times were I just didn't call at them and would flank them or move to ambush them instead of sitting tight. I still have alot to learn turkey huntiing though. I'd probably be better off just sitting tight.
 
It's a learning experience whatever works for you,it comes to a point though whether you go home empty handed or go get em!
 
No doubt about it, sit-and-wait offers better odds across the board. But run-and-gun is a lot more fun.
Someday, if we live long enough, we all won't have any choice but to sit and wait (and I'm probably not that far from there, now). So run and gun while you can!
What makes for a better story?
"I sat all day in a blind and a turkey walked up and I shot it."
Or, "I ran a mile or so, swam two sloughs and a river, to shoot this one right in the pecker/beak?"
LOL.
 
Taylor said:
No doubt about it, sit-and-wait offers better odds across the board. But run-and-gun is a lot more fun.
Someday, if we live long enough, we all won't have any choice but to sit and wait (and I'm probably not that far from there, now). So run and gun while you can!
What makes for a better story?
"I sat all day in a blind and a turkey walked up and I shot it."
Or, "I ran a mile or so, swam two sloughs and a river, to shoot this one right in the pecker/beak?"
LOL.

Well said.
 
Sitting tight has killed more birds for me, but when one goes hush-mouthed and then a I hear another bird tearing it up in another direction, I tend to see this little war waged over and over.

You see, I have this little angel that sits on one shoulder and a little devil that sits on the other, and when a situation like this arises, the feud begins:

Little Devil (LD): "He's got with a hen. Go after the one screaming for attention".

Little Angel (LA): "Nope, he's coming, sit tight".

LD (one minute later): "Did you NOT hear that gobble? He's beggin' to be killed".

LA (looking behind my neck at the LD) : "Shut UP, this one's coming." (Now whispering in my ear again) "Come on man, you know they say to wait 30 minutes longer than you think you should. Take a peek at your watch and wait at least 30 mins".

LD (short time later, arms crossed): "Double gobble, in case you missed it".

LA: "It's only been 10 minutes. Hold tight. WAIT, what was that? Oh just a squirrel."

LD, 15 mins later: "He is HOT. At least call again to see if this one gives a response."

Call, and nothing.

LD: "Crank it up. Give him something NASTY!"

LA: "NOoooo! He already answered you 10, er 30, minutes ago. He's coming!"

20 minutes later, the other bird gobbles again after a 5 minute lull.

LD: "Well?? You waited 20 minutes, let's go after the other one before he gets with a hen"

You stand up, take a step and a 20" bearded gobbler explodes into flight just over the rise and sails off of the ridge.

LA: "When will you EVER learn :D ?"
 

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