something i remembered from yesterday

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Yesterday on the youth hunt I decided to not use a blind for the kid i took. I have known him and his family for years now and have taken his 3 older brothers over the years and got them a bird as well. Generally in the past I have taken them and sat in a blind on a particular set up I like and it was worked out great. The reason I first started taking them was their father had asked me to kinda mentor them and show them the ropes on how to turkey hunt and to teach them the way it should be done. Most of the hunts i took them on i went the easy route and looking back on that I am kicking myself for doing so. I just didnt trust they would be mature enough to really sit still and listen in all honesty. Well yesterday morning i decided to hell with it, if i am taking the kid hunting then we are going to hunt the way I hunt success or no success he was going to see what turkey hunting was all about. Why would i take them and show him a way to hunt when i personally dont hunt that way, how was that helping the kid learn.

I told him when we got out of the truck we were fixing to really hunt some turkeys and hope he had some comfy boots on! we got to a listening spot and sure enough had them fire off but they were a good bit away from where i was hoping they were and across a slough, so I told even to keep up and lets get on it! Torn MCL and all we moved with great quickness and took the long way around to try and get where I knew they would move to. We go set up and the first thing he asked was "are you gonna but some decoys out" hahah. I said buddy with the right set up you dont need none so pay attention! got set up to where if a tom showed himself he would be in range without question.

Had to talk to him about always sitting in a position that you can shoot from cause you never know, how to move with a purpose and how to look with you eyes and not you head. How to choose where to sit and why and how to call and when to call at a group of henned up toms. After an hour and a half it paid off!

the point of my story he was so freaking happy about the bird but he was as proud of himself for the way we went about it and how sitting though the pain of you but going numb and your arms hurting from holding the gun. He felt like he really hunted that bird and was just glowing telling his dad how much he had learned during the whole thing. he talked more about that then actually shooting the thing which was cool.

bottom line is teach kids to HUNT and how to HUNT rather then sometimes taking the easy way out or not trusting they can do it. in the long run they learn about the sport so much more and the "man" inside them gets more confidence and grows each time. teach them that hard work and patience are not only the keys to turkey hunting but to life and that you will not be successful all the time, heck you will fail most of the time. Learn from mistakes and dont be afraid to ask questions for things you dont know.

the kill was great but man I was more proud of the kid for taking it all in and following my instructions then simply pulling the trigger which in reality is the easiest part. there is a time and a place for bilnd hunting but you have to let them fail sometimes for the greater good.
 
Not trying to dog on anyone but I think the point of the weekend gets lost with the quest for success rather then teaching. Some do it right and still try to balance the 2 but I was guilty of the success part. I think fathers sometimes don't trust their kids to be able to do it or fear it will ruin the hunt if they can't sit but that's how they learn.

I am a father and want my son to get his first really bad but I'm not going to do all the work and he just show up and pull the trigger. What did he learn in doing so? Anyways just all hit me this weekend


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I don't disagree with anything you said, and congrats to you and the young hunter.

Rest assured mine will earn their kills, and there won't be any decoys, blinds, bushwhacking involved. We aren't shooting hens, or jakes either. I'll teach mine to hunt, not just kill.

I've always heard the excuse kids have to kill to get hooked, that's garbage imo and if a kid can't be excited by all the cool stuff happening in the woods they don't have the DNA to be an outdoorsman. Or the parent has failed raising the kid in the first place, but some kids just don't ever have the burning desire to be outdoor types. Which is perfectly fine as well.

Just like everything in the adult world needing to be instant gratification the same things are happening to our youth. Trophies for everyone etc.
 
I'm glad he got one! Sounds like a great hunt.

I can remember chasing the footsteps of my Dad back in the mid 90s all over the tallest hills and the deepest hollers that Clay county TN has to offer. He didnt own a blind. And we hunted mainly woods. My dad was well known locally as the man that was killing turkeys when no one else could. He taught himself how to be a great hunter. I wouldnt trade any of those memories for the world. That being said, it took me longer than i care to admit to kill a turkey. I had my own limitations and got very discouraged and almost quit. As ive grown up, i still have a solid foundation on how to turkey hunt. But i have also embraced other techniques and enjoy them just as well. I would have been ecstatic to kill my first bird from a blind and over decoys. And it wouldn't have made me appreciate it any less than when i finally did kill one on a hillside at the base of a tree a LONG way from the truck.
 
How old is he?

A lot of factors go into the decision on how to introduce a young person to turkey hunting. You obviously knew the family, and knew that he would be able to handle it, and how it probably wouldn't have turned him completely off had it not worked out.

That can't be said for all young hunters. You have to give them a taste, and then when they are ready, ramp it up. It's a process.
 
My son killed his first and only turkey at 8 and we used a blind then. I knew he couldn't get on the gun without moving everywhere. He just turned 12 and this morning we didn't use it and don't think we did last year either. He's getting better with his moving at the right time and did great this morning. I was talking him through getting the safety off without getting busted and he did. Unfortunately the bird didn't come quite close enough to seal the deal. Like setterman said though some kids are not just dying to go hunting and my son is like that. Once the show was over he was ready to call it quits so instead of making him stay we got up and left at 8:00.
 
PalsPal":3gfdc13l said:
How old is he?

A lot of factors go into the decision on how to introduce a young person to turkey hunting. You obviously knew the family, and knew that he would be able to handle it, and how it probably wouldn't have turned him completely off had it not worked out.

That can't be said for all young hunters. You have to give them a taste, and then when they are ready, ramp it up. It's a process.

Sure but there I lies part of the issue for me. If a kid is big enough to shot a shotgun like a 20 gauge they should be big enough to hunt outside of a blind. If the adult is really holding the gun and steadying it and the kid is just pulling the trigger who is actually doing the shooting.

Again there is a time and place for everything but kids have to learn nothing is easy that's worth doing. Practice is how you learn

I'm not saying the only way to teach is a kid is without a blind because sometimes it's the easiest thing to do to be successful. Just referencing my own experience and opinion is all.

Proverbs 3:5
"Trust in the lord with all your heart; do not depend on your own understanding"

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Awesome post. That's the way I learned, and they way I teach when I do take others.

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The most important part is to hunt with your kid. The rest is a distant second, third, or fourth. If everybody is having fun I don't get caught up in any legal method.
 
Great post. Thanks for teaching the kid not only how to kill a gobbler, but for also maybe adding a little something to his work ethic. Way to go.


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Great post. I learned to turkey hunt from an old schooler. No blinds or decoys and he made most of his calls on the go. I wish i had paid more attention to what he was doing besides watching the toms strut into range.

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arkwaterfowler":3dssj5jr said:
The most important part is to hunt with your kid. The rest is a distant second, third, or fourth. If everybody is having fun I don't get caught up in any legal method.

This is what I most agree with. Get them out there, make it fun and interesting. Kills as well as learning skills and woodsmanship are the goals. Some don't use decoys and some do. Some use blinds and some don't. It doesn't matter to me how you do it as long as it's legal and the kids enjoy themselves.
 
Great post REN! Sitting in a blind will not educate a kid into being a good hunter. This year me and my daughter will be moving around some more. I don't blind hunt with her period. She needs to learn to be still and relax and be patient. But, I will move around teaching her signs, such as scratching,tracks,poop under roosting trees, etc. Its about the experience and being there with your child all while teaching them. The kill is the reward.
 

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