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they all have good and bad things to them. I ended up using a base no longer made with different tops depending on the hunt.

Sooner you get one and start figuring it out the better. Some of the things I did before using one to hunt was figure out how to carry it and gear. How to take it from my back to the tree. How to keep it from making a racket and how to get up the tree and in place and be able to do all that in the dark. Climb with it several times, get to feel how it climbs so when something isn't right you know it as soon as it happens. Some other things I did was hang it on a tree in the woods (I live in one) looking at it from different positions adding camo as needed blending it in. Someone gave me a large neoprene black mat people stand on in factories for fatigue. I cut a hunk and attached it to the base, Keeps my feet silent and any sun heats it and my feet. The bottom was blended in with the camo while hanging. The mat also keeps anything your boots picked up from falling down.

Mine holds everything but the weapon, goes from my back to the tree and sits like a table. I set the gear down already roped, climb on and climb. I'm in no hurry to get set as I get in early, being unheard and unseen is all I care about.

You'll find the cables on the summits noisy. I do use a summit top when I'm planning on sitting, a LW hand climber when I'm not it is very light and quiet. Both have nothing on the base, it's top decided to crumble on a climb (knew it was going with slight pressure on it, strapped off, hunted the morning and worked it down in daylight. Almost in half when I got down). It's called a Tree cat Archer and where LW got the idea for their straps. It's straps are not notched like the LW and retracts with the squeeze on a cam. Large, light and very adjustable.

Practice practice, practice.

Something else about stands I was told when I went looking into them...when most things are rated their breaking point is three times more than what they are rated at, this is widely accepted. Tree stands only twice the breaking point. Most everything breaks at say 900 and are rated at 300, a stand breaks at 600 and is rated at 300. It's why when people stand on them they get the feeling they need something else...they do. Take extra precautions with stands, never trust one out of the box.

<blockquote data-quote="gary66" data-source="post: 5646601" data-attributes="member: 16621">they all have good and bad things to them. I ended up using a base no longer made with different tops depending on the hunt.Sooner you get one and start figuring it out the better. Some of the things I did before using one to hunt was figure out how to carry it and gear. How to take it from my back to the tree. How to keep it from making a racket and how to get up the tree and in place and be able to do all that in the dark. Climb with it several times, get to feel how it climbs so when something isn&#039;t right you know it as soon as it happens. Some other things I did was hang it on a tree in the woods (I live in one) looking at it from different positions adding camo as needed blending it in. Someone gave me a large neoprene black mat people stand on in factories for fatigue. I cut a hunk and attached it to the base, Keeps my feet silent and any sun heats it and my feet. The bottom was blended in with the camo while hanging. The mat also keeps anything your boots picked up from falling down.Mine holds everything but the weapon, goes from my back to the tree and sits like a table. I set the gear down already roped, climb on and climb. I&#039;m in no hurry to get set as I get in early, being unheard and unseen is all I care about.You&#039;ll find the cables on the summits noisy. I do use a summit top when I&#039;m planning&nbsp; on sitting, a LW hand climber when I&#039;m not it is very light and quiet. Both have nothing on the base, it&#039;s top decided to crumble on a climb (knew it was going with slight pressure on it, strapped off, hunted the morning and worked it down in daylight. Almost in half when I got down). It&#039;s called a Tree cat Archer and where LW got the idea for their straps. It&#039;s straps are not notched like the LW and retracts with the squeeze on a cam. Large, light and very adjustable. Practice practice, practice.Something else about stands I was told when I went looking into them...when most things are rated their breaking point is three times more than what they are rated at, this is widely accepted. Tree stands only twice the breaking point. Most everything breaks at say 900 and are rated at 300, a stand breaks at 600 and is rated at 300. It&#039;s why when people stand on them they get the feeling they need something else...they do. Take extra precautions with stands, never trust one out of the box.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="gary66, post: 5646601, member: 16621"] they all have good and bad things to them. I ended up using a base no longer made with different tops depending on the hunt. Sooner you get one and start figuring it out the better. Some of the things I did before using one to hunt was figure out how to carry it and gear. How to take it from my back to the tree. How to keep it from making a racket and how to get up the tree and in place and be able to do all that in the dark. Climb with it several times, get to feel how it climbs so when something isn't right you know it as soon as it happens. Some other things I did was hang it on a tree in the woods (I live in one) looking at it from different positions adding camo as needed blending it in. Someone gave me a large neoprene black mat people stand on in factories for fatigue. I cut a hunk and attached it to the base, Keeps my feet silent and any sun heats it and my feet. The bottom was blended in with the camo while hanging. The mat also keeps anything your boots picked up from falling down. Mine holds everything but the weapon, goes from my back to the tree and sits like a table. I set the gear down already roped, climb on and climb. I'm in no hurry to get set as I get in early, being unheard and unseen is all I care about. You'll find the cables on the summits noisy. I do use a summit top when I'm planning on sitting, a LW hand climber when I'm not it is very light and quiet. Both have nothing on the base, it's top decided to crumble on a climb (knew it was going with slight pressure on it, strapped off, hunted the morning and worked it down in daylight. Almost in half when I got down). It's called a Tree cat Archer and where LW got the idea for their straps. It's straps are not notched like the LW and retracts with the squeeze on a cam. Large, light and very adjustable. Practice practice, practice. Something else about stands I was told when I went looking into them...when most things are rated their breaking point is three times more than what they are rated at, this is widely accepted. Tree stands only twice the breaking point. Most everything breaks at say 900 and are rated at 300, a stand breaks at 600 and is rated at 300. It's why when people stand on them they get the feeling they need something else...they do. Take extra precautions with stands, never trust one out of the box. [/QUOTE]

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