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The Gap between FSU and her sisters UF and Miami

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There is a huge gap in coaching, and Jimbo just got a big extension. uf has had no continuity with offensive coaches, and the continuity they had on defense left with Muschamp. um is probably going through a coaching change soon.
The talent gap on the field might be even bigger than the difference in coaching. The Warchant article did a good job of showing the differences. It's just hard to imagine why a top QB would want to play behind uf's miserable OL, ditto for RB's. uf has to get some top recruits this year, and so far that is failing to materialize. If McElwain comes up with another empty class this year, then he will be on the hot seat after next. And, the cycle will continue... Doubtful that um holds on to their class. If it falls apart, then Golden might be gone. um would take an even further step back if they have to hire a new coaching staff. Might be good for the long run, but it would be a hit in the short term.
The talent waiting to go on the field for FSU might be better than who is playing. It's a whose who of recruits like Henry and Nauta for commitments, and those left likely to commit might surpass them in talent. Meanwhile, the talent waiting to go on the field at both uf and um will be a down grade from what they had.
The headwinds at um might be too strong to ever get back to being in the national title picture. Reality is that they have never even won the ACC. FSU gets to showcase its talent in the biggest hotbed of talent every other year. No other in state school can say that, besides miami and other than when they play FSU it's in front of 20,000 fans (maybe). As a side note, uf was stupid to end this rivalry.
uf has the resources to get into the playoff discussion. But, they seem to be their own worst enemy. They may have made another bad choice with McElwain as coach. They might need to start over with a new AD to right the ship. Even if McElwain is the right choice it's tough with no QB, and not even enough OL to have a spring football game. The best uf can realistically hope for is to win their weak division 2-3 years from now. That's hard to imagine though with what would probably be a freshman QB and a bunch of new OL.
Jimbo is 9-1 against uf/um. In the next 3 years I suspect he will go at least 4-2 against them, with a realistic possibility of 6-0. :tu:
 
Florida leads the series 34–23–2

How FSU has done against their rivals in the series...... :pop:

Miami leads the series 31–28

Looks like FSU is the lil sister in the Sunshine State..... :tu:

Looks like you might be tooting your horn backwards.............. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
 
Not to bad for a school that started after WWII. Probably didn't notice ,this is about the present and future. The jist of this is Jimbo is 4 of 5 vs UF and never lost to Miami. FSU will catch Miami soon .Will take a little longer for UF.
 
Yep... And barely beat a bad UF team with your hero Winston. It must be a trend wanting to erase the past so some can feel better. If it makes you feel better for me not to post the real #s... :) Nah, FSU still is the lil sister in the Panhandle State.

badnole are you even from FL???
 
gator-n-buck":31g31m86 said:
Yep... And barely beat a bad UF team with your hero Winston. It must be a trend wanting to erase the past so some can feel better. If it makes you feel better for me not to post the real #s... :) Nah, FSU still is the lil sister in the Panhandle State.
Moral victory for the gators? And sometimes it's ok to be the "little sister" as long as your the "hot little sister". Ask the Vandy fans during the Franklin years.
 
wayne":25l9mpv8 said:
gator-n-buck":25l9mpv8 said:
Yep... And barely beat a bad UF team with your hero Winston. It must be a trend wanting to erase the past so some can feel better. If it makes you feel better for me not to post the real #s... :) Nah, FSU still is the lil sister in the Panhandle State.
Moral victory for the gators? And sometimes it's ok to be the "little sister" as long as your the "hot little sister". Ask the Vandy fans during the Franklin years.

Nope... Just pointed out that a playoff team only beat a bad Gator team by 5.

Are you even from FL... :)
 
gator-n-buck":3rzc375w said:
wayne":3rzc375w said:
gator-n-buck":3rzc375w said:
Yep... And barely beat a bad UF team with your hero Winston. It must be a trend wanting to erase the past so some can feel better. If it makes you feel better for me not to post the real #s... :) Nah, FSU still is the lil sister in the Panhandle State.
Moral victory for the gators? And sometimes it's ok to be the "little sister" as long as your the "hot little sister". Ask the Vandy fans during the Franklin years.

Nope... Just pointed out that a playoff team only beat a bad Gator team by 5.

Are you even from FL... :)
Are you from Tennessee?
 
gator-n-buck":2p9y5vjz said:
wayne":2p9y5vjz said:
gator-n-buck":2p9y5vjz said:
Yep... And barely beat a bad UF team with your hero Winston. It must be a trend wanting to erase the past so some can feel better. If it makes you feel better for me not to post the real #s... :) Nah, FSU still is the lil sister in the Panhandle State.
Moral victory for the gators? And sometimes it's ok to be the "little sister" as long as your the "hot little sister". Ask the Vandy fans during the Franklin years.

Nope... Just pointed out that a playoff team only beat a bad Gator team by 5.

Are you even from FL... :)
Yes Gnb ,I am from Florida. Been here forever. Fsu is the big boy now and uf and the candy canes have evolved into Kaitlin Jenner.Lot of Jenners past scores dont matter either.. Happy Fourth. :tu:
 
baddnole":1on59l6h said:
gator-n-buck":1on59l6h said:
I figured since you rooted for the noles that you couldn't be a real Floridian.... :rotf: Only thing that I have with FSU on it, a recruiting letter... :)
Nole fan because I had first pick.

Little trivia for the first picks out of FSU. The highest picked player in FSU's history was a bust. Only 3 seasons in the NFL and was drafted with the 3rd pick by the Cards. Drum roll.... Andre Wadsworth

Deion Sanders probably the best player to come out of FSU...... :D
 
Poor Andre got hurt his first couple games and his knee never recovered.. Bidwell was known for not spending money on any lineman to help take the pressure off.
Deion is and was great.I would have to say the highest is Mr. Winston.Can't discount Derrick or Warrick as far as their helping the community and public service.. Just curious ,who is the highest draft pick from UF?

Found out-----#3 pick Wes Chandler. Great WR. UF has had a couple of threes,one with a lousy personality.
 
baddnole":1vvu1719 said:
Poor Andre got hurt his first couple games and his knee never recovered.. Bidwell was known for not spending money on any lineman to help take the pressure off.
Deion is and was great.I would have to say the highest is Mr. Winston.Can't discount Derrick or Warrick as far as their helping the community and public service.. Just curious ,who is the highest draft pick from UF?

Found out-----#3 pick Wes Chandler. Great WR. UF has had a couple of threes,one with a lousy personality.

I didn't include Winston because we don't know how his pro career will turn out.
 
gator-n-buck":2em31nfe said:
baddnole":2em31nfe said:
Poor Andre got hurt his first couple games and his knee never recovered.. Bidwell was known for not spending money on any lineman to help take the pressure off.
Deion is and was great.I would have to say the highest is Mr. Winston.Can't discount Derrick or Warrick as far as their helping the community and public service.. Just curious ,who is the highest draft pick from UF?

Found out-----#3 pick Wes Chandler. Great WR. UF has had a couple of threes,one with a lousy personality.

I didn't include Winston because we don't know how his pro career will turn out.

LOL He was still the # 1 pick regardless.
 
Probably looking at another Ryan Leaf. Since I'm a fins fan, I don't mind the Bucs wasting money or the pick... :)

I'm sure he will be involved in an ESPN film. Not sure if he will be mentioned before or after Heath Shuler... :rotf:
 

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