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the MSU stuff is crazy

It is. Not going away. Baylor II.

I said this when Baylor started being uncovered, none of us can assume our favorite college teams have clean hands. If I'm Meyer, Saban, Pruitt, Swinney et al, this is what keeps me up at night.
 
Penn State got off too easy. University and fans whined and got off with too little punishment. Tore down Joe Pa stuff, then put some more back up.

Baylor and Briles got off too easy .

Both of those teams should have gotten the death penalty.

I don't care who the team is, how storied their history, or how big the draw, this type of activity and cover up/head turning CANNOT be accepted.
 
I can't disagree with you. To a degree. But it's easy to stand on the soap box when it's not your Georgia Bulldogs in the crosshairs. And you know and I know that the Dawgs and the Buckeyes have got some history. If you know what I mean. As do the Tide and the Vols and the Gators and and and. So. When the event happens that starts peeling that onion on the Dawgs, will you still be on that soap box?
 
However, I will say after reading, not skimming, the ESPN OTL report I must say ......

But first let me caveat this by saying when I was very young, so I am told by family, I had trouble pronouncing the word "truck."

Michigan State is trucked.

scn , I didn't say what you think you heard.
 
Even if it were my UGA Bulldogs I would say that. I have daughters and a son, and if it were my kids that would trump any organization. I work with kids, and if it were any of those kids it would trump the organization. So by default, if it were any kid it would trump the organization. As a society we must protect our children and innocent, and we must hold leaders and institutions accountable for hurting them.
 
Scioto":4jyuhrbd said:
However, I will say after reading, not skimming, the ESPN OTL report I must say ......

But first let me caveat this by saying when I was very young, so I am told by family, I had trouble pronouncing the word "truck."

Michigan State is trucked.

scn , I didn't say what you think you heard.
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:? :( MSU making baylor look like a convent
 
Comparing runs the risk of making one look better than the others when all are travesties. We are at the start of the MSU scandal while Baylor is still being uncovered as the lawsuits proceed along. No way is Baylor a "convent" compared to MSU, at least based on what we know at this point. Based on the Baylor lawsuits, 52 rapes and other sexual assaults by 31 football players were covered up and not prosecuted between 2011 - 2014. I think the numbers have grown for all years 2011-2016 to over 100 incidents at Baylor. What we know at this point is 16 cases of rape/sexual assault by MSU football players since 2007 and apparently a lesser number by basketball players and a grad assistant coach. What we don't know is whether this is just the tip of the iceberg and whether Dantonio and Izzo, like Briles and the Baylor football staff, actively covered up the rapes and assaults. It appears MSU campus police referred some to the county prosecutor while not referring others. Prosecutor is at fault as well, as it doesn't appear any until last year were pursued. As we know, once investigations start, then the facts come out. I don't think Dantonio survives this with his job. Not sure about Izzo. What we also know is MSU is in big trouble and heads will roll. NCAA was also informed of the "culture" in 2010. Will be interesting to see if they asked some questions and were told nothing to see here move along or if they asked any questions at all. If the latter, this will spread.

This is a major "athlete culture" problem and it spreads far and wide. It's not a racial or socio-economic culture either. I really think a lot of these athletes start getting away with it in middle school and it is allowed to continue. It's also time to shut down the Title IX offices and athletic departments as the investigators. Make it state law that the claims must be referred not to campus police, but to the local police and county prosecutors for investigation, but we also know from Baylor and now MSU and other schools that the outside authorities are also complicit. I just don't think I would send my daughter to a big university in a college town.
 

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