TSS ammo

[RUGER]

Been seeing / reading alot about this stuff.

Is it worth it?
The way I understand it, it is mostly 9 shot?
I assume it is made of heavier material to increase the knock down power?

I am gonna have to buy some more shells this year and I thought about giving it a try.

Thinking about getting me a choke and use my SX3 this year.
May just stick to my Mossberg rattletrap too, it has done pretty well over the years. LOL

 

[fairchaser]

Definitely worth it, but don't just buy some and assume it will pattern like your other stuff. It must be tested. It will increase your effective range or make your current range more effective. IMO it's one of the latest innovations that makes a true difference.

 

[Andy S.]

Gamechanger for turkey hunting with lightweight subgauges. TSS #9 shot made the 20G a dedicated turkey killing machine, and now TSS 9.5 & 10 shot is making the even lighter weight .410 a solid option to 40 yards.

 

[RUGER]

So are they "better" in say a 20 gauge or are they just as good with a 12?
My father-in-law has a 20 gauge mossberg that throws the best pattern I have ever seen in any shotgun or any gauge or brand.
I'm thinking it would be phenomenal with the TSS ammo?

 

[REN]

So are they "better" in say a 20 gauge or are they just as good with a 12?
My father-in-law has a 20 gauge mossberg that throws the best pattern I have ever seen in any shotgun or any gauge or brand.
I'm thinking it would be phenomenal with the TSS ammo?

"worth" is in the eyes of the shooter. Do you NEED Tss to kill turkeys - NO. Is it superior in performance and downrange energy which equals cleaner kills and better optimal performance - YES

Originally it was used mostly in 20 gauge guns due to the severe lack of ammo options for it. People wanted to use a lighter gun with less recoil and the lead options (which is all there was at the time) were really bad past 25yds.
For 12 gauge guns there was already Hevi Shot options out there with that did a very good job for heavier then lead options and better down range energy.

When it came to loading your own, there is a big difference in cost per shell in loading a 12 vs a 20 long term so most people felt with the other 12 gauge options out there it was really over kill to use it in a 12. That mentality has somewhat changed but personally I still feel the same. I have loaded my own 20 gauge shells for 5-6 years now and have never felt the need to load up 12 gauge options just because my SBE2 shoots a fantastic pattern with MagBlends already.

Having said that with the commercial options for TSS now, it is much easier to just by the 12 gauge rounds if that is what you want to shoot because then you dont have to buy all the materials to load your own 12 AND 20 gauges.


As far as my own personal opinion, if you are able to get 250-300+ #9 shot in a 10" circle at 40 yards with a 20 gauge (while still having a great 20" pattern) then there is no real need to do "better". 12 or 20 will kill them just as dead, just the 20 will have lower recoil, cheaper to shoot and generally will be lighter to carry.

 

[TN Larry]

As far as my own personal opinion, if you are able to get 250-300+ #9 shot in a 10" circle at 40 yards with a 20 gauge (while still having a great 20" pattern) then there is no real need to do "better". 12 or 20 will kill them just as dead, just the 20 will have lower recoil, cheaper to shoot and generally will be lighter to carry.

Which is the exact reason that I am now solely shooting a 20 gauge with #9 TSS. It will kill a turkey past where we shouldn't be shooting at them. If I were still shooting my 12 gauge, I would still be shooting #6 Longbeards as it throws a great pattern out to my personal range limit with some wiggle room if I misjudge. The 20 gauge now does the same thing and probably even a little better but lighter to carry and less recoil. I never thought a lot about recoil until having back surgery and then two blown discs in my neck.

 

[CATCHDAWG]

I used it one time with a 12 gauge and it absolutely destroyed (ruined) my bird at forty yards. I went back to Winchester supreme in 4 shot that I've used for years. Anything inside sixty yards is dead with that stuff using a Pure Gold choke. I do have some tss for my .410 that I'm hoping to kill with this year though.

 

[catman529]

Tungsten is heavier and harder than lead. So you can get a lot more pellets in a bird and hit them even harder. I haven't tried it myself


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[Southern Sportsman]

Very general rundown:

In effectiveness, it's far superior to lead or any other shot material. It's roughly 60% more dense than lead (11 g/cc vs. 18 g/cc). So a much smaller pellet has a lot of downrange energy. Because it's small, hard (no deformation during the shot), and spherical, each pellet has a much better ballistic coefficient. And with less surface area, it gets better penetration than a bigger lead pellet. It's a nerdy distinction, but your after penetration more so than "knockdown power." Because you can effectively use very small pellets, you can get a hellof a lot of them in a load. (~ 360 T9s per oz vs. 175 lead 5s per oz). More pellets, each with a better ballistic coefficient, equals better pattern density and a greater effective range.

Example:
A .410 load (13/16 oz) of 9s has roughly 295 pellets
A 3" 12 gauge load (1 3/4 oz) of 5s has roughly 300 pellets

This is why tungsten really took off in smaller gauges. If you want a 50 yard 12 gauge, there are lots of options. If you want a 50 yard 20 gauge, there are virtually no other options.

 

[ROVERBOY]

Very general rundown:

In effectiveness, it's far superior to lead or any other shot material. It's roughly 60% more dense than lead (11 g/cc vs. 18 g/cc). So a much smaller pellet has a lot of downrange energy. Because it's small, hard (no deformation during the shot), and spherical, each pellet has a much better ballistic coefficient. And with less surface area, it gets better penetration than a bigger lead pellet. It's a nerdy distinction, but your after penetration more so than "knockdown power." Because you can effectively use very small pellets, you can get a hellof a lot of them in a load. (~ 360 T9s per oz vs. 175 lead 5s per oz). More pellets, each with a better ballistic coefficient, equals better pattern density and a greater effective range.

Example:
A .410 load (13/16 oz) of 9s has roughly 295 pellets
A 3" 12 gauge load (1 3/4 oz) of 5s has roughly 300 pellets

This is why tungsten really took off in smaller gauges. If you want a 50 yard 12 gauge, there are lots of options. If you want a 50 yard 20 gauge, there are virtually no other options.

Yeah, I agree. Its valuable in 20 gauge and smaller but, 12 gauge, I don't think you need it.