bowhunterfanatic
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Can someone give me an estimate of what it'll cost starting 100% from scratch and with 0 knowledge? I'd be loading for a 20 gauge if that makes a difference.
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Wrangler95
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Look on Old Gobbler and Gobbler Nation,should find it on there!
bowhunterfanatic":19r1iz6k said:
the big cost will be shot obviously, that is about 50% of the total cost to get started really.
depending on what receipt you use you will need to buy the materials which will be hulls, wads, felt, powder, buffer and shot cards. those you buy in bulk so initially it will be high but you wont have to buy them more then once really.
other then that you just need a crimper (about $20) and scales (can be as cheap or expensive as you want to go, I think we got ours off Amazon for like $20)
Im happy to help with any questions you have just PM me or text me 615-306-3219 Jaymie
Assuming you load 1 5/8 (1.625) ounce of shot per shell, you'll be able to load 10 shells per pound (16 ounces) of shot. Assuming roughly $50/lb for TSS alone, you'll be right at $5/shell for just the shot. You'll need hulls (buy in bulk), wads (bulk), cork/felt (bulk), overshot cards (bulk) and buffer (bulk) and a roll crimper (used with cordless drill). You'll probably have $8+/shell by time you pay for all items and shipping.
Check this video out for a tutorial.
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Check this video out for a tutorial.
[youtube]Vp7_CNcIAZE[/youtube]
TSS is not a topic that OG moderators care to see on their board. There is some discussion on their board, but GN is definitely the ticket for TSS discussion, pointers and feedback.Wrangler95":1p59r1ah said:
orion43
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Bow, send me a PM, I will share info.
It's really not hard at all to do once you get the hang of it. I loaded up 15 shells tonight for me and TNReb and it only took me like 45mins start to finish and I was taking my time.
I will add one of the best "tools" I got (Andy may have recommended it or someone else from here when I started) was a cigar tamping tool. Fits perfect in the hull to push the hull and all the parts down. They are super cheap and awesome to have
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Aunt nothing to it but to do it
You need a friend like REN so that you can split initial setup costs, then just say "Hey buddy, load me up some shells!", and he gets it done. 
In all seriousness though... it does cost a good little bit to get started. I wouldn't have done it if I didn't have someone to split the costs with. You have to like fooling with that sort of stuff and patterning guns. If you just want to shoot TSS and don't care about the process, it may not be worth the investment.
I had fun building a trap to recapture the shot, and trying different chokes to see how they all patterned out with the various loads.
In all seriousness though... it does cost a good little bit to get started. I wouldn't have done it if I didn't have someone to split the costs with. You have to like fooling with that sort of stuff and patterning guns. If you just want to shoot TSS and don't care about the process, it may not be worth the investment.
I had fun building a trap to recapture the shot, and trying different chokes to see how they all patterned out with the various loads.
Boll Weevil
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TNReb":2ftq55f2 said:
Question: Shot into a trap, does TSS deform where perhaps it doesn't pattern as to be worth continued reloading? I know th stuff is super hard but does it flat side and deform so it's un-reloadable?
Boll Weevil":wwldeku1 said:
Nope! No deformation that I've noticed.
TheLBLman
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Any idea why?Andy S.":1m143s7d said:
Boll Weevil":ikvp0s2t said:
As long as you have a good amount of soft material like carpet or equivalent to slow it down it won't deform at all and last year we got approx 94% of all the shot back we fired at it
REN":3c77on66 said:
Oh yeah... completely forgot about all those carpet layers.
The powers that be over on O.G. has decided that TSS is unethical because everyone kept taking shots at longer distances, read some that were in the 75 yard range (if you can believe it), the idea of taking birds at unheard of distances instead if developing your calling skills to get birds close is what done the TSS shooters in, so now they call G.N. home.
TheLBLman
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That's an understandable explanation, although don't know if the decision to stifle the discussion is a wise one.FOX FIRE":20cpqkcm said:
I guess, what's ultimately happening is the development of TSS is kinda a defacto way of hunting more with a rifle than a shotgun?
This COULD ultimately lead to shorter seasons and lower bag limits,
as it does make it easier for someone with less "hunting" experience, to simple go shoot some turkeys.
IMO, all the aspects of all our choices should be debated.
Like many on O.G., I'd hate to someday see turkey shooting replace turkey hunting.
In some respects, simply shooting a live target (vs. "hunting")
is somewhat like just hand-placing a ball in a hole, calling it "golfing",
then comparing one's golfing skills to Tiger Woods'.
The real fun and challenge is more in playing the game,
rather than just placing a ball in a hole, or shooting something.
Where we draw our lines becomes the issue.
The real beauty of TSS is you KNOW your shells will consist of the exact same components year to year, as well as the ability to easily kill turkeys at traditional distances using sub gauges (20, 28, .410), with lighter weight guns, and minimal recoil.
elknturkey
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Tss can kill way out there and some people probably use it for that reason alone but from all the people I know that use it, which is several, we could go back to lead in a 20ga and keep on killing the same amount. I live in a rifle state so if long range was our goal I'd pull out the 22-250. My average kill range is prob around 28 yards, maybe not even that. I try not set up to where I can even see him till he's at 40 which isn't hard to do where I hunt.
It doesn't seem right to spend that kind of money on a shell when you don't need the horse power but for what I spend every year just on gas, food and tags, $60 in shells is just a drop in a bucket to have the best shell available. I have enough components and shot stock piled to where I will prob never need to buy anymore. No worrying about running out or load being discontinued.
Back to the OP. If you buy 2lbs of shot $88, 100 hulls $18, 250 wads $15, buffer $10, filler $10, OSC cards $8 (if you roll crimp), crimp tool $20 scales $30, powder $30 you're looking at roughly $250 to get started. I load a 1 7/16 so i get 11 shells from a pound, a little more velocity and I didn't lose anything in the 10"
It doesn't seem right to spend that kind of money on a shell when you don't need the horse power but for what I spend every year just on gas, food and tags, $60 in shells is just a drop in a bucket to have the best shell available. I have enough components and shot stock piled to where I will prob never need to buy anymore. No worrying about running out or load being discontinued.
Back to the OP. If you buy 2lbs of shot $88, 100 hulls $18, 250 wads $15, buffer $10, filler $10, OSC cards $8 (if you roll crimp), crimp tool $20 scales $30, powder $30 you're looking at roughly $250 to get started. I load a 1 7/16 so i get 11 shells from a pound, a little more velocity and I didn't lose anything in the 10"
TheLBLman
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Andy, I believe you and I typically see pretty eye to eye on most issues, including this.Andy S.":27j7xfny said:
I'm only concerned that too much about real hunting is becoming more about simply shooting.
I'm not opposed to using TSS at all, and the only reason I'm not is simply because I haven't spent the time to start.
That, and the fact I'm pretty content with those Federal Heavyweight #7's in my 20 gauge.
