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Crow Terminator

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This is my first year going from a pin style sight, to a single pin adjustable. I'm shooting the HHA .029 pin model. Well for shooting in the yard I love it! For low light it's unheard of bright. You can see you pin all the way til end of shooting time in the woods.

BUT I discovered a big problem with it...with me being a pin shooter all these years. I have a bad problem getting excited in the woods. If you don't get excited bow hunting, I think you miss the picture.

Anyway Saturday I was in the woods. Had a deer come in on me that at first I wasn't sure if it was a doe or button buck. I adjusted the sight to 35 yds when I first saw it and when I saw it was a B.B. I never once thought about the sight again. Later that evening I had a groundpig come through the woods. I love shooting groundpigs. Well he was 15 yds from me and was on the move. I put that pin right on him...SPAT. Right in the dirt. Groundpig unscratched. Hmmm what happened? Well you figured it out by now...I never adjusted the sight before I shot. Which got me to thinking...hey man, what if I have a deer come running in on top of me (like has happened so many times in the past) and I don't have time to think...just time to shoot. And what if that pin ain't set where that deer stops...or what if I have it dialed in for where it's standing at the time, and then when I draw back it spooks for one reason or the other, and I get it stopped, but now it's further or closer than where it was before. I ain't got time to let down and adjust a sight....which would leave me guesstimating where to hold. And that ain't cool?!!

For the cool, calm, and collected guy under pressure...well I guess these things are a really good sight. For backyard shooting and for 3D shooting I think they are great for even me...but I'm not cool under pressure. I'm for sure not collected when a deer is there. And I'm just glad I figured this out on a lowly groundpig and not a deer! Gonna have to pinch hit and get me a pin sight on the spur of minute now.
 
For hunting , I keep mine locked down @ 25 yards . I practice routinely from 15-35 yards and from elevated positions to get an idea where to hold with my sight locked down at 25 yards.. For my bows , it's not much hold over or under to compensate .
 
HOOK said:
Last thing someone needs is adding the another step in the shooting process...go back to pins Crow.
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A single pin sight is by far the best thing I have adapted to for hunting. I'll never go back to a multiple pin sight for hunting . Less clutter with one pin . Learn to shoot with it locked down , Crow .
 
I guess I could do the 25 yd set thing but I've never been one of those guys that liked guessing where the arrow was going to go. I could do without a sight and go instinctive if I were gonna do that :)

Radar -- Have you heard any news about HCA? I know you shoot their bows but I've been hearing that they are going out of business. Any word on that? I know they filed Ch 11 back in May but that don't mean they are out of business.
 
Crow Terminator said:
I guess I could do the 25 yd set thing but I've never been one of those guys that liked guessing where the arrow was going to go. I could do without a sight and go instinctive if I were gonna do that :)

Radar -- Have you heard any news about HCA? I know you shoot their bows but I've been hearing that they are going out of business. Any word on that? I know they filed Ch 11 back in May but that don't mean they are out of business.
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It doesn't take much hold over out to 35 yards with the speed of the bows today , especially from a treestand.
HCA is still in business . I haven't heard much about what they have planned for 2010. I'm waiting word on the bankruptcy proceeding . I'm still testing the Speed Pro . I hope they remain in business and fight their way back to the top .
 
I'm a novice, so I will keep the multi pin sight for now. I do like how the one pin sight keeps down the clutter. Well, the moment of truth happens so fast that alot of practice with any sight will bring results.
 
I used to have the adjustable one sight pin on mine and experienced the same problem you're talking about Crow, and I'm no guesstimator of distance either. So I went with a Savage pendulum sight. Best of both worlds, one sight pin, and it adjusts to the distance based on the downward angle of your bow. From a treestand its great anywhere from ~10 yards to 35, which is my personal limit. Only thing about it is on the ground you have to go back to guesstimating because it'll only be dead on at 20 yards.
 
That is why I stayed with a multi pin sight this year. I get very excited when a deer shows up so I don't want to be messing around trying to adjust a sight or just completely forget about adjusting it!
 
Radar said:
For hunting , I keep mine locked down @ 25 yards . I practice routinely from 15-35 yards and from elevated positions to get an idea where to hold with my sight locked down at 25 yards.. For my bows , it's not much hold over or under to compensate .
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Exactly. Mine is about two inches high at 20 and two inches low at 30.
 
Pendulum is the way to go if you are a treestand hunter, ground hunting you will need a very fast bow to use a pendulum out to 40 yds, most people look at pendulums and shake their head but Im a believer and I have multiple P&Y bucks to prove, don't get me wrong I have missed but it was my error
 
I don't shoot pins but rather an EOTec but it's the same principle. I have a setting for 20, 30, 40, and 50 yards. My 20 yard marker is dead on from 0-20 yards. I keep it set on 30. At 20 I'm high so a bellyline shot puts it right where I want it. At 40 I'm low so a shot at the back line drops it right where I want it. Pre-range your distances and you'll know where to aim at anything coming through. Practice at 3 D targets at those known distances and you'll know exactly where to aim. As fast as the bows are now there's not much variance in aiming at deer ranging anywhere inbetween those distances. You don't have time or movement to waste adjusting sights for incoming deer so this works great for me.
 
LOL You are talking to the guy that shot 3D tourneys all summer and lowest finish was 4th. I can handle stationary targets and any pressure that goes with 3D shooting. BUT hunting is totally different for me for some reason. Its been two seasons since I shot a deer with my bow and the best I can remember, I always had trouble with getting too excited about it. I do good to remember to look through my peep sight when a deer is standing there, let alone trying to remember how high or low to hold my sight on it to get it to go in there.

My hunting bow is the fastest bow I've ever owned. I'm shooting it around 310 fps with a 28" draw @ 60 pounds. That's still not as fast as the 340 or 360 fps bows of course...but even for this at 310, there is still enough drop in the bow that I'm not comfortable guessing the drop with a single stationary pin. That was the whole reason I went with an adjustable sight, to eliminate the guess work. The killzone size of the deer decreases from a treestand perspective anyway, leaving even smaller of an area for error. Throw in my panic/excitement, and the deer around here being on edge all the time and flinching at every little noise...it makes for quite a challenge. I've killed public land deer with a bow that didn't act as spooky as the deer here on the Crow Plantation.
 
CT,
With that speed...set ONE pin at 25 and learn it well....strictly from your treestand height.

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