broken tine
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HAs anyone ever heard of a w/b not tuning on certain bows? I shoot an older PSE and my pro-shop called me yesterday saying they couldn't get my biscuit to tune, so now I'm faced with buying a new rest!! Input please
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RussellvilleRob
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I dont see him tuning it without you there anyway.
Am I right Radar?
Am I right Radar?
broken tine
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he's just paper tuning it for me>
Jubal
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Did he try more than one rest? I guess it is possible that the riser is too thick to allow enough adjustment for the WB - since it is an older bow. A lot of the older bows were made thicker. Just a thought.
Not a big fan of allowing anyone to tune my bow. Or even shoot my bow for that matter. Paper tuning can easily be done at home and it helps you identify possible problems that you are causing.
Not a big fan of allowing anyone to tune my bow. Or even shoot my bow for that matter. Paper tuning can easily be done at home and it helps you identify possible problems that you are causing.
Jubal
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Not a fan of the WB either - but I wouldn't call them "junk". It is a great rest for hunting.
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If you are going to get another, I'd suggest that you get a good dropaway.
BT-
If you are going to get another, I'd suggest that you get a good dropaway.
broken tine said:
He can't paper-tune if for you, that's something you have to do yourself. Each person applies torque to the bow in different ways, therefore you need to be the one shooting the bow when it's being tuned.
highway
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never had trouble out of my whisker biscuit. I shoot dang good with mine. Preference of choice I guess.
Radar
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You will sometimes get false readings when paper tuning with a WB rest . I once was getting tail high paper tears indicating nock high , but I actually ended up below square with the string loop and the back end of the shaft was striking the bottom of the WB frame causing the arrow to rebound upwards .
There are many factors that affect bow tune besides the rest too . Arrow spine is critical , as well as the nock location , cam rotation on single cams , cam timing on dual cams , centershot , string stretch , etc.
The WB is one of the easiest rests to tune . I think the guy was trying to sell you a new rest .
Here is a copy and paste from the WB website :
Tips and Tricks
I keep getting a high tear when I paper tune my bow. How can I fix it?
If your bow is set up with even tiller, and the arrow rest is positioned so the arrow passes by the anchor bolt hole, and you are getting a high tear of 1/4 inch or less, then this is a satisfactory setup with the Whisker Biscuit and will result in good groups. There are however several things to check when you encounter a high paper tear. They are:
Biscuit gripping the arrow too tightly � If the wrong size biscuit is being used for your arrow, or if the biscuit is not adjusted correctly and is fitting too tightly around the arrow shaft, a high paper tear is likely. To correct this problem verify you are using the correct size biscuit for your arrow. Then if necessary, adjust the biscuit by spreading it open at the split until the arrow passes freely through the biscuit. A loose fitting biscuit is optimal.
String Nock Point too Low � The string nock point should be adjusted so that the arrow lays flat across the riser and passes in front of the anchor bolt hole. It is better to have a slightly high nock point (1/8 to 1/4 inch), than a slightly low nock point. A low nock point can produce a high paper tear.
Incorrect Spine � 2 cam and 1 cam bows seem to differ as to how they respond to spine. Here is what you will typically see:
Two Cam Bow � A high spine weight will cause a high tear. In general you won't see a low tear.
Single Cam Bow � A high spine weight will cause a low tear. A low spine weight will cause a high tear.
Disclaimer � There are many different cam designs, each with its own personality. If you find that the above observations don't pan out, try the opposite. If you are getting a vertical tear you can't get rid of by adjusting the rest or nocking point, it is a good bet that the arrow spine is the issue.
Biscuit too far to right or left � Occasionally a vertical tear can be corrected by moving the biscuit to the right or left a slight amount. If you notice that your vertical tear leans to the side, try a slight horizontal adjustment.
There are many factors that affect bow tune besides the rest too . Arrow spine is critical , as well as the nock location , cam rotation on single cams , cam timing on dual cams , centershot , string stretch , etc.
The WB is one of the easiest rests to tune . I think the guy was trying to sell you a new rest .
Here is a copy and paste from the WB website :
Tips and Tricks
I keep getting a high tear when I paper tune my bow. How can I fix it?
If your bow is set up with even tiller, and the arrow rest is positioned so the arrow passes by the anchor bolt hole, and you are getting a high tear of 1/4 inch or less, then this is a satisfactory setup with the Whisker Biscuit and will result in good groups. There are however several things to check when you encounter a high paper tear. They are:
Biscuit gripping the arrow too tightly � If the wrong size biscuit is being used for your arrow, or if the biscuit is not adjusted correctly and is fitting too tightly around the arrow shaft, a high paper tear is likely. To correct this problem verify you are using the correct size biscuit for your arrow. Then if necessary, adjust the biscuit by spreading it open at the split until the arrow passes freely through the biscuit. A loose fitting biscuit is optimal.
String Nock Point too Low � The string nock point should be adjusted so that the arrow lays flat across the riser and passes in front of the anchor bolt hole. It is better to have a slightly high nock point (1/8 to 1/4 inch), than a slightly low nock point. A low nock point can produce a high paper tear.
Incorrect Spine � 2 cam and 1 cam bows seem to differ as to how they respond to spine. Here is what you will typically see:
Two Cam Bow � A high spine weight will cause a high tear. In general you won't see a low tear.
Single Cam Bow � A high spine weight will cause a low tear. A low spine weight will cause a high tear.
Disclaimer � There are many different cam designs, each with its own personality. If you find that the above observations don't pan out, try the opposite. If you are getting a vertical tear you can't get rid of by adjusting the rest or nocking point, it is a good bet that the arrow spine is the issue.
Biscuit too far to right or left � Occasionally a vertical tear can be corrected by moving the biscuit to the right or left a slight amount. If you notice that your vertical tear leans to the side, try a slight horizontal adjustment.
broken tine
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well he does a great job at tuning my girlfriend's bow, it too has a w/b and it's dead on
broken tine
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also thought about him just trying to sell me a new rest
LCU said:
Mine woudlnt fall.
I say get a ripcord
bobthebowhunter
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f1maxis said:
ditto
It'd be like someone adjusting a bicycle for the way they ride and then giving to you to ride. It's gonna be different
I have shot a WB for at least 5 years and I have never had one single problem. Maybe I am lucky?????
Radar
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Buckblaster said:
My QAD Ultra Hunter rest wouldn't fall either . When I shot , the fletching tore off the launcher, bouncng it off the back of the riser and near my eye . I sent it back to Cabelas for a refund . I would not recommend that rest to anyone .
Food Plot 101
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I haven't had any problems with the WB.
FLTENNHUNTER1
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WB's rule.
squattin dogg
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As an Archery / bow ed instructior you sould be there with your bow during everything . It is your bow to be intimate " with it and know it's in and out's . I have just switched to the WB this year and have had no complaints. Take it under your own control and test it in feild to be proven wrong. !!!! GOOD LUCK !!!!
ChadG
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Hillbilly Hunter said:
I guess I'm lucky too!
