You MUST listen

[AT Hiker]

To the Hunting Collective podcast with Dr. James Earl Kennamer, the former chief conservation officer for the NWTF and a key figure in the recovery of the wild turkey.

-Benjamin Franklin myth
-Inside scoop on the restoration
-the decline is real
-modern hunting equipment needs to be addressed (that's a huge one)
-bag limits matter..."90% of turkeys are killed by 10% of hunters"
-Dr K doesn't use decoys anymore[emoji14] and he even makes reference to those that fill their limit no mater what it takes

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/t ... 0441894190


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[Boll Weevil]

Listening now...I always thought Dr. K was a great advocate and very knowledgeable.

 

[Roost 1]

Really enjoyed listening to this, thanks for sharing. However I don't expect many on here to agree with or appreciate many of Dr K's views based off of how these guys view Setterman's opinions.

 

[th88]

Great podcast! Much respect for him.

 

[AT Hiker]

Really enjoyed listening to this, thanks for sharing. However I don't expect many on here to agree with or appreciate many of Dr K's views based off of how these guys view Setterman's opinions.

Hopefully more people will listen to this podcast and learn to appreciate the "Setterman view" as we could call it on here. Those views (or styles) are not radical at all and in reality one could argue they are pivotal in the restoration of wild turkey. Coincidentally enough we are straying away from those views and the turkey seems to be at risk now....


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[Shooter77]

Good pod cast!! Thanks for sharing AT.

 

[TheLBLman]

Hopefully more people will listen to this podcast and learn to appreciate the "Setterman view" as we could call it on here. Those views (or styles) are not radical at all and in reality one could argue they are pivotal in the restoration of wild turkey. Coincidentally enough we are straying away from those views and the turkey seems to be at risk now....

While I truly appreciate and generally agree with the "Setterman view"
it is not always possible nor practical.

When you have a large acreage to hunt, and you're not sharing the vicinity with too many other hunters,
it's the best, the ultimate way to go turkey hunting.
It's the real deal.

But what about the average hunter who is hunting private property, and has permission on less than 30 acres?

Unless you're hunting a fairly large acreage, the "run & gun" style may not be the best way.
It can be very frustrating to be working a bird, only to have other "run & gun" hunters approaching you (and/or a gobbling bird) from multiple directions.
It can also be frustrating to spook birds off your small property to where they're heavily hunted across the property line.
That reason contributes to why many hunters are using stationary blinds on small parcels.

Ironically, for a large number of hunters, public land hunting often offers the best opportunity for the "Setterman view", since relatively few turkey hunters have access to large acreage private tracts.

Again, I agree with the Setterman view, but just note it is not always possible,
other than, for many people, just staying home or going fishing instead.

 

[poorhunter]

Hopefully more people will listen to this podcast and learn to appreciate the "Setterman view" as we could call it on here. Those views (or styles) are not radical at all and in reality one could argue they are pivotal in the restoration of wild turkey. Coincidentally enough we are straying away from those views and the turkey seems to be at risk now....

While I truly appreciate and generally agree with the "Setterman view"
it is not always possible nor practical.

When you have a large acreage to hunt, and you're not sharing the vicinity with too many other hunters,
it's the best, the ultimate way to go turkey hunting.
It's the real deal.

But what about the average hunter who is hunting private property, and has permission on less than 30 acres?

Unless you're hunting a fairly large acreage, the "run & gun" style may not be the best way.
It can be very frustrating to be working a bird, only to have other "run & gun" hunters approaching you (and/or a gobbling bird) from multiple directions.
It can also be frustrating to spook birds off your small property to where they're heavily hunted across the property line.
That reason contributes to why many hunters are using stationary blinds on small parcels.

Ironically, for a large number of hunters, public land hunting often offers the best opportunity for the "Setterman view", since relatively few turkey hunters have access to large acreage private tracts.

Again, I agree with the Setterman view, but just note it is not always possible,
other than, for many people, just staying home or going fishing instead.

"His" view is still possible on small tracts...it just doesn't involve killing many turkeys. I've spent years and years hunting small tracts, and get skunked a lot. I've hunted big 1000's of acre tracts and been successful. What's not practical to ask today's hunters is to not come home with a dead bird.

 

[woodsman04]

Very good listen. I really liked it when he got to the 60-65 minute mark and talked about how the turkey is programmed. They ain't stupid, and they ain't smart. They just wild turkeys.

They are programmed to fight other gobblers. Hence they look stupid when you shoot one and the buddies flog the flopping bird. (I've never seen this happen with my own two eyes, but seen it on tv a lot) They look stupid with a full strut decoy or a fan because they sprint 300 yards across a pasture to attack it.

They are programmed to gobble up hens. They seem smart when they want come in ten more yards for a shot.

He says everything I've believed for a long time from the 60" mark on. He just uses way more tact.

I'll say it again, not much sport using a decoy or fan to kill a gobbler. The sport is calling him up within 50 yards and shooting him. Fooling him at his own game. Not cheapen him with a fan or strut decoy.


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[woodsman04]

Hopefully more people will listen to this podcast and learn to appreciate the "Setterman view" as we could call it on here. Those views (or styles) are not radical at all and in reality one could argue they are pivotal in the restoration of wild turkey. Coincidentally enough we are straying away from those views and the turkey seems to be at risk now....

While I truly appreciate and generally agree with the "Setterman view"
it is not always possible nor practical.

When you have a large acreage to hunt, and you're not sharing the vicinity with too many other hunters,
it's the best, the ultimate way to go turkey hunting.
It's the real deal.

But what about the average hunter who is hunting private property, and has permission on less than 30 acres?

Unless you're hunting a fairly large acreage, the "run & gun" style may not be the best way.
It can be very frustrating to be working a bird, only to have other "run & gun" hunters approaching you (and/or a gobbling bird) from multiple directions.
It can also be frustrating to spook birds off your small property to where they're heavily hunted across the property line.
That reason contributes to why many hunters are using stationary blinds on small parcels.

Ironically, for a large number of hunters, public land hunting often offers the best opportunity for the "Setterman view", since relatively few turkey hunters have access to large acreage private tracts.

Again, I agree with the Setterman view, but just note it is not always possible,
other than, for many people, just staying home or going fishing instead.

"His" view is still possible on small tracts...it just doesn't involve killing many turkeys. I've spent years and years hunting small tracts, and get skunked a lot. I've hunted big 1000's of acre tracts and been successful. What's not practical to ask today's hunters is to not come home with a dead bird.

Yea nothing wrong with going home empty handed. I've hunted big tracts and small tracts. I've been successful and in successful on each one.

If you don't want to spook the turkey into neighbor property, it's simple, don't spook him.


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[Bone Collector]

Good listen. I agree with him when he said, "where he hunts they have plenty of turkeys, but you can't manage based on those areas, you have to manage based on the what the average hunter has." and then went on to say that he thinks that turkey hunters have been spoiled by above average turkey populations and the only thing we can control is # of days in the season and bag limits.