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Rather than continuing to hijack the TWRA thread, I thought I'd start a new one.

I like watching "some" hunting videos on Youtube. I just wish they'd completely leave the area they're hunting up to the imagination of the viewer. This is what THP's Youtube channel looks like right now.



6 Alabama hunts with 5 dead turkeys and 1 that's probably dead. All of them labeled "Alabama-Public Land". I don't even have to watch the videos to know that I'll be hunting public land in Alabama next year.

They're probably about to release the TN videos soon. I wonder how many nonresidents that'll bring in to the state.

As you can see, I don't watch their videos because I don't agree with what they're doing.
 

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I love their videos and how they go about they're channel. True as it gets IMO. Don't hide nothing.
 
They spook and miss/cripple more turkeys than any group I've ever seen. And except for the homely chick with curly hair, they all wear stupid hats.

I respect anyone who kills fair numbers of turkeys on public land. And since their whole gig is based on hunting public land, I can't really fault them for acknowledging that they are hunting public land in a particular state. But they could do a better job of hiding what areas they are hunting so as not to draw everybody to that spot the next year. Dave Owens hunts mostly public, but you'd be hard pressed to identify what area he's hunting
 
Dave Owens was very clear about his hunting area in South Florida. Then you see his issues with hunting pressure this year. It's usually not hard to figure out where they are, I agree Dave Owens normally keeps it more secretive though.
 
I guess I don't watch as much Youtube as I thought. I had to look most of these people up. I'm pretty sure I've seen the curly headed dude on the Midwest Whitetail channel.
 
Recruiting new younger turkey hunters is important, and videos like these help get people interested in the sport. Most of the guys I run into on public are a lot older than me. I know we all want some woods to ourselves and don't like crowds, myself included, but we gotta remember it's hunters who fund conservation, and with a decreasing hunting population, what does the future hold for turkeys? Public land popularity is up, but overall hunter numbers are down. Would you rather see some kids watch a TV infomercial hunt over a corn feeder with a strutter decoy and then try to take those tactics to their local public land, or see those kids watch some YouTube videos and learn some actual hunting tactics?


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I personally have no issues with how Dave or THP do theirs. I dont really hunt public land but Ive never been able to really tell where they were (other then N alabama due to the terrain). Besides that I always just had the mindset that it is PUBLIC at the end of the day so no one has any more claim to it then others. besides in a time like this where LOTS of people have time on their hand some folks on youtube are not going to make a huge different in one spot over another. people are just out looking to hunt that have time to kill and want to get out of the house.
 
catman529":1xppfhkk said:
....but we gotta remember it's hunters who fund conservation, and with a decreasing hunting population, what does the future hold for turkeys?
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Grandma that buys a box of .38 bullets funds conservation too. Along with many tax payers that do not hunt that live in states with state funded game and fish agencies.

Do you think turkey hunter numbers are up or down?

I'm not too convinced the fait of turkeys should rest in the hands of hunters. Seems like we are our own worse enemy, right now. Kill one at all cost mentality, fill all my tags and move on to the next state, etc.


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Hunters are not the only source of funding for conservation and resource agencies, not even close. Think outside the box, there are states other than Tennessee that offer hunting. This is going to ruffle some feathers, but I would support residents having more access/opportunity/tags/etc on public land than non-residents, just like South Carolina went to this year. I highly suspect that is what it will come to in the near term for many states. Take care of your own before you take care of others.
 
Andy S.":362uke7t said:
Hunters are not the only source of funding for conservation and resource agencies, not even close. Think outside the box, there are states other than Tennessee that offer hunting. This is going to ruffle some feathers, but I would support residents having more access/opportunity/tags/etc on public land than non-residents, just like South Carolina went to this year. I highly suspect that is what it will come to in the near term for many states. Take care of your own before you take care of others.
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Florida does this. Only 10% of quota tags to non-residents. I understand it and have no issues with it.
 
PickettSFHunter":1tc0mc2k said:
Andy S.":1tc0mc2k said:
Hunters are not the only source of funding for conservation and resource agencies, not even close. Think outside the box, there are states other than Tennessee that offer hunting. This is going to ruffle some feathers, but I would support residents having more access/opportunity/tags/etc on public land than non-residents, just like South Carolina went to this year. I highly suspect that is what it will come to in the near term for many states. Take care of your own before you take care of others.
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Florida does this. Only 10% of quota tags to non-residents. I understand it and have no issues with it.
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Me too. At the end of the day, residents contribute a whole h*ll of a lot more to the state's economy than someone who visits 3-7 days. That is simple economics that anyone should be able to understand.
 
catman529":3r9oz9ph said:
Most of the guys I run into on public are a lot older than me.
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I resemble that statement. We hunt a lot of the same places. You never know who you may have talked to out there.

catman529":3r9oz9ph said:
Recruiting new younger turkey hunters is important, and videos like these help get people interested in the sport. Most of the guys I run into on public are a lot older than me. I know we all want some woods to ourselves and don't like crowds, myself included, but we gotta remember it's hunters who fund conservation, and with a decreasing hunting population, what does the future hold for turkeys? Public land popularity is up, but overall hunter numbers are down. Would you rather see some kids watch a TV infomercial hunt over a corn feeder with a strutter decoy and then try to take those tactics to their local public land, or see those kids watch some YouTube videos and learn some actual hunting tactics?
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I have no issue with the videos themselves. Heck, I enjoy watching some of them. I just wish they'd keep their locations to themselves. Once someone says what state they're in and even what part of the state, it's easy to start looking on a map and finding features that were in the video to figure out where they were. I travel to hunt several states states a year (mostly deer) and this was a method I used for a long time. I now still do it, but only to figure out where to stay the heck away from. There's a lot more people who do the same and those places are now crowded.
 
Andy S.":19uavuio said:
Hunters are not the only source of funding for conservation and resource agencies, not even close. Think outside the box, there are states other than Tennessee that offer hunting. This is going to ruffle some feathers, but I would support residents having more access/opportunity/tags/etc on public land than non-residents, just like South Carolina went to this year. I highly suspect that is what it will come to in the near term for many states. Take care of your own before you take care of others.
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it already costs many times more for a non resident to hunt in most states.


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Southern Sportsman":13ix5rjz said:
They spook and miss/cripple more turkeys than any group I've ever seen. And except for the homely chick with curly hair, they all wear stupid hats.

I respect anyone who kills fair numbers of turkeys on public land. And since their whole gig is based on hunting public land, I can't really fault them for acknowledging that they are hunting public land in a particular state. But they could do a better job of hiding what areas they are hunting so as not to draw everybody to that spot the next year. Dave Owens hunts mostly public, but you'd be hard pressed to identify what area he's hunting
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That's not necessarily true. Dave has shown too much of lots of areas and regrets it now.


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I'm a second year turkey and deer hunter and the reason I picked it up is because of people like catman and THP showing that you don't need 2000$ a year for a lease when you just have to work a little harder on public land. I've managed to get a few deer last year, a turkey last year, and a jake this year. Without channels like catman and thp showing that even if you don't have much money, or connections to get permission on private land, you can still have great experiences in the outdoors. Without opportunities and exposure to public land id probably still be just a bass fisherman. Without more and more hunters being recruited eventually non hunters will become anti hunters and legislation will change how we hunt forever.
 
I seen Zach and crew in Alabama..They were going in at a gate that I have been behind many times. I stopped in the road as to social distance myself and spoke with them. They were nice fellas but told me that had killed one back there the day before (episode 15). As a public Hunter I am old school and would've never told that! Lol. I don't know if I could have seen anything to make me recognize where they killed that bird had that not told me. I don't really care though because it will not make me run in behind that gate the next time I go ( they done killed them all). They were at the same gate as I left the next day for home. All I know on public land is " not heard a thing"!
 
TDW05":21vnkh1t said:
Isn't Dave Owens the one that shot a bearded hen?
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If you're talking about a video from last year, that was a guest of the THP guys. Pretty sure Dave was at camp when they brought it in but definitely wasn't him that shot it.

Yes, the THP guys talk/show too much about where they're hunting.
 
Thegreatwhitehunter1776":y27uv7cg said:
I'm a second year turkey and deer hunter and the reason I picked it up is because of people like catman and THP showing that you don't need 2000$ a year for a lease when you just have to work a little harder on public land. I've managed to get a few deer last year, a turkey last year, and a jake this year. Without channels like catman and thp showing that even if you don't have much money, or connections to get permission on private land, you can still have great experiences in the outdoors. Without opportunities and exposure to public land id probably still be just a bass fisherman. Without more and more hunters being recruited eventually non hunters will become anti hunters and legislation will change how we hunt forever.
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I've only seen a few of catman's videos, but what I've seen, he's done a great job of "showing that even if you don't have much money, or connections to get permission on private land, you can still have great experiences in the outdoors" and they're pretty informative also.

Congrats on your successes over the past couple years.
 

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