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2011 BTC Black LED Picture Video & Stills

J.M.A.N.

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Before I start this I make no contention that I am a Bushnell fan to begin with but have always tried to rule them justly in the past. I own 6 of them (3-09/3-11)(had one more that was stolen recently)so you can take my opinion for what it is worth based on my past posts.

I keep my cams placed under heavy canopy and little light gets through but will on ocassion. Initial impression is this camera is excellent concerning sensing and trigger interval which seem to be 3 shot burst performed in under 2 seconds and the ability to do it again after only 7 seconds consistently in my testing on trails.

Night time illumination and pictures are actually superior in my opinion that traditional IR in most cases such as I use them. The Black LED really lights up the night well and constistantly. One camera had taken almost 1300 pictures and using my Tenergy LSD rechargeables I still had all my bars. You actually seem to get more blur in daytime pictures with moving objects than you do nighttime. I also think the transition is on a timer of some kind that automatically starts a switch at around 7:20 pm until 8:00 pm before going completely into "NO GLOW" mode as far as picture quality goes.

I noticed an interesting phenomena when viewing close to 3,000 total pictures that I found to be interesting. Many of the deer who normally frequented my minerals licks came into them almost "looking" for a flash of some kind when coming in at night. I say this because I had pics of them looking right toward the area of the previous camera as if wondering where it had gone. This was pretty convincing to me that they could not see the flash on them. The only time a deer looked at a Black LED camera was during the daylight hours while placed on a trail. It caught the attention of a young buck and and older doe.

Two thumbs up in my opinion!

2011 Bushnell Black LED Picture Quality video

I'll get some more stills posted later.
 
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This picture has been cropped and lightened up slightly:

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So far, I'm pretty impressed with the new "black" Bushnell. And although some are calling it a "low glow," personally, I think it should be categorized as true black-flash, as many people report not being able to see any glow (and a few can see the glow of a Reconyx black-flash, but I cannot).

Although I think my NT50Bs produce farther illumination at night with their black-flash, they do so at the expense of more motion blur. It looks like Bushnell went with slightly less night-time illumination but also less motion blur (which is a good thing).
 
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BSK...I just got some 960nm LEDS and gonna do a TRUE Black Flash DXG567v video unit with it. I am wanting a "neutral" party such as you to do the testing with it. You up for that???
 
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Here are some more pics:

Of course, this one has been cropped and slightly lightened:

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This is a rainy day shot...I was impressed.:

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Nice video you created there, thanks for sharing. I'll agree that overall the pics are quite nice for a $250 camera. I also agree with Bryan that the night illumination may suffer a little but I will take that at the expense of less motion blur. My black flash cams will be set up close to scrapes 99% of the time so a little less illumination will not matter all that much to me. Yesterday I was reading about this exact cam on another forum and a member posted some pretty impressive videos. I love video mode on scrapes; you can capture bucks and does doing things you never imagined you would see. The link is below if you want to check the videos out. http://iowawhitetail.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38177

My only concern at this point with Bushnell and the other companies that have produced decent cams one year and junk the next is consistency (where most all units are good reliable cams). I hope most every user has as good as review as you. Time will tell. Thanks again for sharing.
 
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Andy nailed it. If they just get reliability down, then they'll have it. But we wont know that for years. Just hope these dont start dying right after warranty expires.
 
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I'm impressed!
But then, I'm initially easily impressed. ;)
And learning the hard way not to be the next sucker to buy the next new trail cam.

Andy S. said:
I'll agree that overall the pics are quite nice for a $250 camera. . . . . . . My only concern at this point with Bushnell and the other companies that have produced decent cams one year and junk the next is consistency (where most all units are good reliable cams).
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FIREMANJIM said:
BSK...I just got some 960nm LEDS and gonna do a TRUE Black Flash DXG567v video unit with it. I am wanting a "neutral" party such as you to do the testing with it. You up for that???

You bet.
 
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Andy S. said:
I also agree with Bryan that the night illumination may suffer a little but I will take that at the expense of less motion blur. My black flash cams will be set up close to scrapes 99% of the time so a little less illumination will not matter all that much to me.

Exactly. Most of my black-flash cams are placed close to scrapes. I'll give up some illumination distance to get less motion blur. My NT50Bs really suffer from motion blur.


My only concern at this point with Bushnell and the other companies that have produced decent cams one year and junk the next is consistency (where most all units are good reliable cams). I hope most every user has as good as review as you. Time will tell. Thanks again for sharing.

Another "exactly." Last year, Bushnell put out some real stinker cameras. Let's see if they can do MUCH better this year.
 
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And another "exactly".
BSK said:
Last year, Bushnell put out some real stinker cameras.
Am looking at one of them lying on my desk right now.

I purchased 2 Uways and 1 Bushnell BTC in October 2010.
Have regretted all three, without exception, each has been far more trouble than worth. The Uways were replaced numerous times under warranty, and I just put out the latest replacements over a salt lick this past weekend. The prior replacements wouldn't even power up, i.e. DOA. At least those latest Uway replacements "appear" to be working now, but how long before they quit?

Meanwhile, either I've misplaced the receipt or it's become illegible from fading, so guess am just stuck with the "Runaway" BTC. Brings up another frustration: Can't tell you how many cash-register receipts I went thru over the past weekend that had "faded" to the point of being worthless. If you buy a trail cam from a walk-in retail store (such as Bass Pro), be sure to store your original receipt in a ziplock bag and where light can't hit it. Just one more reason to order stuff from Cabela's where you get an itemized receipt that doesn't fade.

Over the years, for the most part, I've really enjoyed working with trail cams, until 2010. Due to my 2010 additions all being lemons, using trail cams did more harm than help for my hunting, as made extra intrusions into hunting areas, messing with trail cams that didn't work, nothing but frustration for my efforts. If 2010 had been my first year using trail cams, I'd be soured on the whole idea.

Seriously, I'm thinking about just running what I have left (mainly some homebrews and Leaf Rivers) during August over salt licks ---- then forgetting about having trail cams out during deer season. "Messing" with trail cams may have become too much a distraction to my hunting (during deer season). May miss some scrape pics, but will be freed of much extra time for more traditional scouting and other things, such as enjoying dinner with friends after a day of hunting, instead of reviewing "runaway" pics for one with a deer, and/or "messing" with trail cams that keep failing to work.
 
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J.M.A.N. said:
Before I start this I make no contention that I am a Bushnell fan to begin with but have always tried to rule them justly in the past. . . . . . Two thumbs up in my opinion!
J.M.A.N.,

Glad you've had the good experiences with Bushnell, and really appreciate all you're sharing with us. You're really getting some great pics (and video).

About this time last year, I was literally within minutes of ordering several of the 2010 BTC models. Doing a final internet check for anything new, heard about the Uways, along with lots of negative feedback on he 2010 BTC. So put off adding any new cams in 2010 until October, still ending up with all "lemons". My conclusion remains if they're made in China, high risk of getting a lemon, regardless of brand, and regardless of any good reviews on www.chasingame.com

Sorry if I diverted the theme of your thread a bit, and do agree, what you're experiencing with the 2011 Bushnell is favorably impressive. :)
 
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Now what kind of warranty will bushnells have? i heard somewhere 1 or two years. The price is right then the warranty will be very important Also with chinese cams right now.
Very interesting is the primos Black Out, if registered online you will have a 3 yr Warranty. but there again its around 100 dollars more.
If UWAY will man up they should extend all 2010 Nt50b's warranty another year in Good Faith.
 
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J.M.A.N.,

Glad you've had the good experiences with Bushnell, and really appreciate all you're sharing with us. You're really getting some great pics (and video).

Sorry if I diverted the theme of your thread a bit, and do agree, what you're experiencing with the 2011 Bushnell is favorably impressive. :)


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Wes....I had the some of same problems with the '10 model BTCs after having them for six months. That is how I ended up with three of the 2011 models - traded all three of my 2010s in.

So far....so good, but time will really tell.
 
I'm hoping Bushnell got the problems worked out of their cams. The '09 models were great, but the '10 models sucked. So far, I'm hearing good things about the '11 models.
 
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BSK said:
I'm hoping Bushnell got the problems worked out of their cams. The '09 models were great, but the '10 models sucked. So far, I'm hearing good things about the '11 models.

Yep...if these 2011 models work like my 2009 model, I might be buying me one.

I just wont have the money for another Reconyx before the end of July when I put my cameras out. I'm gonna keep my fingers crossed
 

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