870 - best choke

Roost 1 said:
I wont have a gun that wont put one down everytime at 50yds..and thats with lead not HTL.....I still have to do my part of course...Serously HTL just makes the paper look better, Lead will still get it done in the field.
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Well 40-45yds is plenty far for me.... so I will just keep all mine.... I haven't tried lead in my tight chokes.... since using HTL and TSS I really haven't wanted to... But I may go back to some lead since the Longbeard shells are showing such promise.
 
Grizzly Johnson said:
muddyboots said:
Grizzly Johnson said:
I'm just going to tell you right now... from my experience with about 6 different 870sm's. I wouldn't be expecting to kill one at 50yds with an 870 consistantly. You might get lucky.... but even shooting all the chokes and loads I have, I wouldn't say I have found a combo that I would count on to kill a turkey at 50yds. Sure I could get lucky with a few pellets, but that ain't the way I roll....

Now if you want to shell out money for some #9 TSS handloads.... well you might be getting somewhere then.
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At 50 they ride in the back of my truck everytime.
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What's your set up? Got any 50yd pattern pics?
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870 SPS-T Supermag with rhino .660. Nitro 4x5x7 Hevishot. I don't have any pics but I started using nitros about 10 years ago and did a lot of shooting then now I just shoot once before season and check the eotech. I ran out of the old shells and bought some new what they call megaweights this year. I will say there pattern is not quite as good but they do hit harder.
 
Roost 1 said:
I wont have a gun that wont put one down everytime at 50yds..and thats with lead not HTL.....I still have to do my part of course...Serously HTL just makes the paper look better, Lead will still get it done in the field.
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What's your 50 yard lead recipe, Roost??
 
I have turkey hunted exclusively with my 870 SP 23" bbl for 15 years or better and patterned a few other 870s for my buds with different barrel/choke/shell combinations. I will tell you that every gun/bbl/choke/shell combination will shoot somewhat different in each "unique gun" regardless if everything is identical. The name of choke you settle on will ultimately be your personal preference, but the constriction and internal geometry will need to be tailored to not only the size shot you shoot (4,5,7,duplex,etc), but also the barrel length (23", 26", etc) and shell length (3", 3.5"). I hunted for years with a Kicks .670 GT and 3.5" Winchester HV #4s and loved my setup, but experimented few years back and I now shoot Indian Creek .665 with 3.5" Nitro H517T triplex and/or 3.5" Magblends (they both shoot almost identical in my setup). The one thing you can be sure of is each gun/bbl/choke/shell combination will shoot some different (pattern density, poa/poi, etc), testing is the ONLY way to find the ideal recipe for your setup. Another thing is if you find a choke/shell combo that your gun really likes, buy as many boxes of shells (sooner the better, exact lot # preferred) while they are available because you never know what will or will not be available next year. Best of luck with your quest!
 
SKFOOTER said:
Roost 1 said:
I wont have a gun that wont put one down everytime at 50yds..and thats with lead not HTL.....I still have to do my part of course...Serously HTL just makes the paper look better, Lead will still get it done in the field.
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What's your 50 yard lead recipe, Roost??
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I shoot gobblin thunder .660 in both my 870 and SBE. Winchester Supreme High Velocity #5 3 1/2"... Both guns have quality optics. You must shoot your guns at extended ranges to know what they are capable of doing. Shot drops quick
past 40yds so you must be able to compensate for that, one way or the other..
IMO alot guys make the mistake of using some sort of open sights. Most of the time the front bead will cover up the turkeys head past 40yds and then you are guessing at your aiming point. With all this being said its best to get them in close before pulling the trigger...
 
The choke in it is the Remington turkey super full and says lead only. Looked in three places today for the winchester long beards and found 3" but not 3 1/2". I did see winchester supremes but thought they were no longer being made. Is that the case and I just found some or are they still produced? I shot them in my 835 with good results before switching to magblends. Probably should have bought them but I didn't.
 
Hey Grizz.... It cost me $7.49 but I decided to give you an 870 pattern at 50 yards. I failed tho, because it was actually at 48 yards so don't hold it against me! The 7"x9" paper was pinned to the cardboard. 219 pellets in the piece of paper @ 48 yards (ranged with rangefinder). I also attached a pic of the cardboard because it shows the pattern a little better.

Remington 870 Super Magnum, 26"
TruGlo StrutStopper .643
NITRO Blend 4,5,7



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Well I appreciate your effort and investment.... I will have to look at those pics when I get home. Still 219 in a 7x9 @ 40 is pretty good!! Nitro shells I would expect better performance vs. the factory stuff anyway.... but that .643 has me perplexed, I would think that would be overchoked with the #4's & #5's....

Thanks again for the pattern.
 
thats a dead turkey!

the SSX has a different internal geometry though which is how they get away with it being choked so much. It uses the same .643 for the mobil choke guns as well and shoots great.

the fairly common issue however with the SSX is the POI/POA problems.
 
Anybody shoot or tried the factory turkey super full choke? Have some 3 1/2" hevishot magblends, hevishot 5's, and double X 5's to try but don't want to waste time and money if its not worth a crap. Still looking for long beard 5's.
 
I use a 660 jellyhead. I pattern my guns on paper, but results are determined from the field. Never had a problem with 660 jellyhead and 3 inch Winchester xtended range shells. Puts them down 50 yards in
 

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