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LSUtigers said:
Understanding your thoughts guys on a 60 yd shot;I have not lost one at that distance yet, 3 out of 3. You are right in getting them close is a rush, but I get the same rush when I go pick them up at 55 to 60. I don't think there is anything unethical about it if the bird dies and goes to my freezer. IMO. Thanks for your thoughts though I will keep them in my mind though.

It's not unethical IF your gun/choke/load have been proven to be able to cleanly harvest a turkey at that range.... But as a rule, 40 yards.... too many noobies read stuff and think because you can do it that they can too and they go buy a gun, shells, and turkey choke, without putting in test time.... only to shoot at a bird and miss or cripple him up escaping.... then they wonder why?
 
ethical is debatable, however the LUCK factor is not. that is just not a distance a turkey pattern is intended for most of the time. Wind, temps, pressure and view of site are all obstacles at that distance. A shot pattern starts to deteriorate QUICK after 40yds so to expect a high percentage of those types of shots to equal success is just not justified.

you are 3 for 3 which is great but you WILL miss more then a few at that range over time if you keep shooting it. that is where the ethical debate comes into play. if you are taking a low percentage shot over and over expecting high percentage results people will look at that as unethical.

I personally dont care and i am not one to judge how you hunt but you have to see the logic there from somes mind. once you get out that far distance becomes very blurred so a 60yd shot can turn into an 80yd shot pretty easily.

Did you pattern your gun to shoot that far? what set up are you using choke/ammo wise? Me personally like them close so if 60 is all he will come in i will just try and chase him another day. The actual KILL part is not the part i covet the most these days but that is just my own style, again not judging yours in anyway.
 
muddyboots said:
Guys 60 yards is a high percentage shot with my set up. I see nothing unethical about it as long as i know it will do it.

As I posted before:

It's not unethical IF your gun/choke/load have been proven to be able to cleanly harvest a turkey at that range.... But as a general rule, 40 yards.... too many noobies read stuff and think because you can do it that they can too and they go buy a gun, shells, and turkey choke, without putting in test time.... only to shoot at a bird and miss or cripple him up escaping.... then they wonder why?
 
muddyboots said:
Guys 60 yards is a high percentage shot with my set up.
I have seen you post this several times over the past few years and I have asked what your setup is and you have told me. I got that. What I failed to ask is how many turkeys have you shot at from 58-62 yards with your current setup? How many did you kill? How many got away? I am wondering how big of a sample set you have to confirm 60 yards is a high percentage shot with your setup? Or are you basing it on a few kills at 58-62 in addition to how your pattern looks on paper at 60 yards? I am not refuting what you say, just trying to better understand what has contributed to your confidence in 60 yard shots. Thanks in advance.
 
Andy,
Where i hunt is mostly hunt large pines with not much underbrush. Birds can see along way. I havent kept up with how many i have shot at what range. The 4 i shot last year were 28 yards, 51 yards, 58 yards, and 61 yards. I did miss one that i walked around a bend on and had a snap shot which i misjudged the yardage and he was too far. Any bird i have shot at inside 60 yards where i am set up make sure of my aim dies. I have the utmost confidence of shooting any bird inside 60.
 
I am trying to give you the benefit of the doubt but you being an LSU fan is making it hard for me to do so hahahahah (i am a bama fan)

if it works and you have it patterned to do it then good deal.

I would love to see it on paper personally as i have never seen a lead pattern hold well out that far especially 4 shot. Not doubting you just something i would like to see really.
 
LSUtigers said:
Someone asked what setup I have: 870 Rem. pump, 28" barrel, Tru Glo choke and Winchester Supreme 3" magnum #4's. A great setup for me, but might not be good for the next hunter.


This is seriously your 60 yard combo? Please post a pattern pic from a measured 60 yards.
 
LSUtigers said:
Why do u guys hang up at 40 yards; have taken several birds at 55 to 60 yards.
I almost always set up so that when that Gobbler becomes visible he's 40 yards away. Alot of times when a gobbler gets to where he can see your calling location and expect to see the hen he will hang up and wait for the hen to come to him. I have shot my gun out to 50 and the guns patterns well enough to kill the bird but I like to call them close.
 
LSUtigers said:
No I have not and it kills turkeys at 60 yards; personally I always do but not this gun, dont c a need to.
Thanks for your input.

You always do, but not that gun..... so your just getting lucky... maybe with only a couple of pellets?

Do you take a new rifle that has only been bore-sighted deer hunting also?

Just curious, and not meaning any disrespect.... just trying to understand the logic...
 
LSUtigers said:
No I have not and it kills turkeys at 60 yards; personally I always do but not this gun, dont c a need to.
Thanks for your input.

So basically your going by the golden pellet theory?
 
i am not saying it wont but man i have a hard time believe a LEAD 3" shell 4shot has the down range pattern to consistently be a high percentage shot. I also have a hard time understanding how you normally DO shot them at paper but this one you didnt. How did you come to find out it will do it at 60yds?? did you just guess it would and tried it?

that is the type of mentality that i was referring to when debating ethics. Again i dont care how you hunt and I am not in any way judging you as a hunter or person but surely you see somes logic here.
 
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