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So I have an assortment of basic calls, but I want to practice with some mouth calls as well.

I have a basic slate and carbon striker..not too too loud
A primos wet box....this one is loud
and a primos double D
and a set of primos A frame calls (a frame double..mini A frame..a frame triple with bat cut, and aframe double with double cut)

I have been sitting in my truck at lunch trying to get used to it. I can get sounds, but they dont sound great yet. Any tips? They arent the most comfortable things to shove in your mouth either.
 
Be sure and put it in your mouth right, open end of reeds facing outwards and longest reed on top.

Try calls that are either 2 or 3 reeds made of white latex. The colored latex calls are usually much more difficult to blow for newbies, and the white latex calls take very little air.

Start by just trying to make noise by blowing a steady stream of air from your throat. When you can hold a note drop your jaw to make it break into a yelp.

There are a million you tube videos which will be far more helpful than reading how to do it.
 
yeah I have watched videos. I can get them to yelp and whatnot...just not good with the whole purr cutt thing...haha.

So people actually cut them though to make them fit better?
 
Yep it probably even says to on the package just follow the original shape small amounts at a time
 
you can cut the "fabric" part to get a better fit if need be. Do not bend the frame on them as some say they do. That will change the entire call and can really mess them up.

to cut you will just have to practice pushing short bursts of air out. A cut is all in the front end of the burst, by that i mean it needs to be sharp while not rolling the sound out of the back end.
 
Setterman said:
Be sure and put it in your mouth right, open end of reeds facing outwards and longest reed on top.
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you sure?i always keep the longest reed on bottom?
 
RAFI said:
Setterman said:
Be sure and put it in your mouth right, open end of reeds facing outwards and longest reed on top.
Click to expand...

you sure?i always keep the longest reed on bottom?
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Yep. To each their own, and if it sounds good enough to you and it works on the birds, than by all means do what works for you. There is no absolute that says you have to do things a certain way.

The longest reed is supposed to be on top so that as you force air between your tongue and the call the top reed with the cut vibrates and makes noise. If the longest reed is downward than your tongue prohibits the reed from moving properly and could affect tone quality and volume.

Like I said, do whatever you like, is comfortable, and works for you. Forget the rest.
 
Setterman said:
RAFI said:
Setterman said:
Be sure and put it in your mouth right, open end of reeds facing outwards and longest reed on top.
Click to expand...

you sure?i always keep the longest reed on bottom?
Click to expand...

Yep. To each their own, and if it sounds good enough to you and it works on the birds, than by all means do what works for you. There is no absolute that says you have to do things a certain way.

The longest reed is supposed to be on top so that as you force air between your tongue and the call the top reed with the cut vibrates and makes noise. If the longest reed is downward than your tongue prohibits the reed from moving properly and could affect tone quality and volume.

Like I said, do whatever you like, is comfortable, and works for you. Forget the rest.
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seems all the calls i use the bottom reed is the longest and the top reed thats cut is the shortest one am i miss understanding what you are saying?
 
RAFI said:
Setterman said:
RAFI said:
Setterman said:
Be sure and put it in your mouth right, open end of reeds facing outwards and longest reed on top.
Click to expand...

you sure?i always keep the longest reed on bottom?
Click to expand...

Yep. To each their own, and if it sounds good enough to you and it works on the birds, than by all means do what works for you. There is no absolute that says you have to do things a certain way.

The longest reed is supposed to be on top so that as you force air between your tongue and the call the top reed with the cut vibrates and makes noise. If the longest reed is downward than your tongue prohibits the reed from moving properly and could affect tone quality and volume.

Like I said, do whatever you like, is comfortable, and works for you. Forget the rest.
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seems all the calls i use the bottom reed is the longest and the top reed thats cut is the shortest one am i miss understanding what you are saying?
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What brand calls are you using?
 
Yep...all mine say longest reed goes on top as well...but id also do whatever I felt worked best for me.
 
it was an oddball call but guess setterman is right about longest reed being on top most times
 
RAFI said:
it was an oddball call but guess setterman is right about longest reed being on top most times
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Seriously, if it is an oddball call it may be designed that way.

And seriously if it works for you than by all means roll with it.
 
Setterman said:
RAFI said:
it was an oddball call but guess setterman is right about longest reed being on top most times
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Seriously, if it is an oddball call it may be designed that way.

And seriously if it works for you than by all means roll with it.
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hey it killed turkey so thats fine.i use a red wasp now.i know you hate them but its pretty raspy and thats what i like.not the best call but i havent found one with more rasp to it .......yet
 
Most are designed for the little tab in the "U" of the call to be down.

However, try them both ways. For me, the Red Wasp sounds raspy with the tab down, but nice and clear with the tab up.

BTW, purrs can be tough.
 

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