Be careful guys...

[280longshot]

I hear this quite often but can't seem to reason the logic behind it!
"Of course there is the reason of excitement while hunting" but being calm and identifying your target is top priority in my book.
I would classify this same to deer hunters taking a brush shot, hence the reason I quit hunting public land!
I witnessed a turkey hunter hunting me along with two deer hunters walking through the woods with hammers cocked trying to take a brush shot during ML season.
Needless to say I never went back to that public land again, What idiots they are!

I say they need to be charged with some kind of assault charge.

 

[highridge]

Just curious because I really don't know, is there any documented report of anyone being shot due to fanning or reaping that anyone may know of?

 

[Setterman]

Careful everyone went nuts on me when I asked the question about what's wrong with people hunting these days. The woods, the water, and the fields are full of idiots that watch too many hunting shows and are too eager to post another grip n' grin shot on the forum, facebook, etc..

I've been saying for several years and it makes people angry, but the new generation of hunters is not good for the sport. The kill at any cost approach leads to bad things, the days of going hunting and appreciating being outdoors are slipping away. Now it's all about the kill, and kill your quarry as easily and as fast as possible.

It's all around us, and the problem is far too many of us are willing to look the other way and not speak out against the way the sport of hunting is headed. Those who do speak out are brow beaten and threatened...

 

[scn]

Careful everyone went nuts on me when I asked the question about what's wrong with people hunting these days. The woods, the water, and the fields are full of idiots that watch too many hunting shows and are too eager to post another grip n' grin shot on the forum, facebook, etc..

I've been saying for several years and it makes people angry, but the new generation of hunters is not good for the sport. The kill at any cost approach leads to bad things, the days of going hunting and appreciating being outdoors are slipping away. Now it's all about the kill, and kill your quarry as easily and as fast as possible.

It's all around us, and the problem is far too many of us are willing to look the other way and not speak out against the way the sport of hunting is headed. Those who do speak out are brow beaten and threatened...

I agree 100%.

 

[RobbyW]

Careful everyone went nuts on me when I asked the question about what's wrong with people hunting these days. The woods, the water, and the fields are full of idiots that watch too many hunting shows and are too eager to post another grip n' grin shot on the forum, facebook, etc..

I've been saying for several years and it makes people angry, but the new generation of hunters is not good for the sport. The kill at any cost approach leads to bad things, the days of going hunting and appreciating being outdoors are slipping away. Now it's all about the kill, and kill your quarry as easily and as fast as possible.

It's all around us, and the problem is far too many of us are willing to look the other way and not speak out against the way the sport of hunting is headed. Those who do speak out are brow beaten and threatened...

What do you think the cause of this is? Not that I don't agree with you, but maybe its the approach you use. If you use tact to educate I bet you have a chance to reach someone. I know I normally stop listening after about the 5th time I am called an idiot.

 

[RobbyW]

And who said there wasn't idiots among us. Anyone nieve (sp) enough to believe one of these "idiots" won' t shoot another idiot crawling around with a turkey fan in front of their face, whether it is woods or open fields, deserves what is coming to them. Hope the guy is alright and if it were me, I would be beating the ever loving piss out of my brother in law. And this is all I have to say regarding idiots

I am not looking for a internet fight or even keyboard drama, but that is the second time I have seen you say something about you being okay with someone getting shot. I think your first one was you wouldn't watch a fanning video, but if it was someone getting shot while doing it you would watch it. I am very new to Turkey hunting, so I know I have a lot to learn. I agree fanning isn't safe, and because of that I wont try, but I would blame the person doing the shooting more than the guy who gets shot. How do you aim for a neck, or verify a beard if there isn't one. Surely you aren't serious about being okay with someone being shot in the woods for any reason. There is never a good enough reason to mistake a person for game......NEVER

Like I said not looking for a fight, but its comments like those, as well as how everyone but you hunt pet turkeys and are idiots that cause a new turkey hunter, like myself, to not take any advice or criticism from you. I have no doubt you probably know a lot about turkey hunting, but you are not going to educate anyone with your knowledge with your attitude. In fact you are hurting your cause, because by now everyone has stopped really listening to anything you say anymore. They may hear you, but they are not listening.

 

[benellivol]

That sucks, I really hope he's ok. A reminder to whistle or shout when another hunter walks up to you. I remind myself not to wave because that's a sudden movement.

About the tail fan, you can't compare crouched in an open grazed field to sitting in a wooded ridge top. Just use common sense. If you think it's iffy then don't do it


Sent from the talk of tap

Don't fan on public land would be my #1 rule.

Don't fan on private land unless you know you're the only one there would be rule #2

 

[catman529]

That sucks, I really hope he's ok. A reminder to whistle or shout when another hunter walks up to you. I remind myself not to wave because that's a sudden movement.

About the tail fan, you can't compare crouched in an open grazed field to sitting in a wooded ridge top. Just use common sense. If you think it's iffy then don't do it


Sent from the talk of tap

Don't fan on public land would be my #1 rule.

Don't fan on private land unless you know you're the only one there would be rule #2

don't fan in the woods or anywhere someone can walk up close and see the fan before they see you. Can't assume you're alone on private land but some places you pretty much know when and where it's safe.


Sent from the talk of tap

 

[Setterman]

Careful everyone went nuts on me when I asked the question about what's wrong with people hunting these days. The woods, the water, and the fields are full of idiots that watch too many hunting shows and are too eager to post another grip n' grin shot on the forum, facebook, etc..

I've been saying for several years and it makes people angry, but the new generation of hunters is not good for the sport. The kill at any cost approach leads to bad things, the days of going hunting and appreciating being outdoors are slipping away. Now it's all about the kill, and kill your quarry as easily and as fast as possible.

It's all around us, and the problem is far too many of us are willing to look the other way and not speak out against the way the sport of hunting is headed. Those who do speak out are brow beaten and threatened...

What do you think the cause of this is? Not that I don't agree with you, but maybe its the approach you use. If you use tact to educate I bet you have a chance to reach someone. I know I normally stop listening after about the 5th time I am called an idiot.

There's no way to educate most of the people I'm referring to above. Not when they're surrounded by it every day on hunting shows, magazines, forums, etc

It's become engrained in our society no one wants to work hard, pay their dues and reap the rewards after a sometimes challenging learning curve. With regards to hunting they don't want to learn about the critters, learn about the land, etc.. They just want to kill the fastest and easiest way possible, that requires as little effort as possible.

Open the cabelas turkey catalog, the first 20 pages are decoys and blinds, there's more pages devoted to trail cameras then turkey calls and then several more pages with shells/chokes. Turkey calls and camo are at the very end of the catalog, this isn't cabelas fault. It's that way because the vast majority of hunters these days don't care about learning to turkey hunt, they just want to kill as many as easy as possible.

Decoys, make things painfully easy when dealing with tough field turkeys.
Blinds hide the hunter so they can move around and don't have to worry with picking a tree or reading the land to set up well enough to kill turkeys.
Trail cameras allow hunters to skip any work involved with scouting, they can scout with relatively no work required
Long range shells and chokes eliminate the need to truly fool a bird, it's designed to extend the effective range to make it easier to kill more birds, faster.

The mentality of many hunters is kill fast and kill easy, and on the current trajectory people will be defending rifle turkey hunts and legalizing bait for turkeys.

It really gnaws a hole in my rear the way the sport is headed. It's hardly recognizable from where it was a few years ago

 

[RUGER]

Hope he recovers.

Wonder if he asked his bil how long the beard was on that turkey he was shooting at?

 

[HuntFish714]

Do you have an update? Hows he doin?