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Calling a tom off his hens

megalomaniac":1itgb3up said:
Oh, one more scenario that I've done... called to a bird with 7 or 8 hens... watched him breed each one, and as the morning progressed, each hen peeled off the flock to go lay.

That reminded me of a gobbler who was coming to me with the hen behind him down off a ridge. I just knew I had him until she ran past him and proceeded to assume the position :shock: .

That ended my chance :D !
 
Only time that comes to mind is when I had a tom come running to me with two or three hens running behind him. This was with no decoys and in fairly thick timber. He was in the bottom of the hollar gobbling occasionally and I could hear the hens every once in a while. It took probably a hour to get him to come up, but when he did he was flat out running to me. It is possible that he got done breeding all the hens and came running to me, but I'll never know since I couldn't see them to start with.
 
megalomaniac":3ga7wupy said:
Oh, one more scenario that I've done... called to a bird with 7 or 8 hens... watched him breed each one, and as the morning progressed, each hen peeled off the flock to go lay. Once the last hen allowed him to breed her, he then came to me as she went off to lay.
I'm pretty sure I have done a modified version of this many times over the years, just did not see it and witness it firsthand because I was in hardwoods. A gobbler flies down with hens at daylight, answers me, but has not intention of coming to me. Pretty obvious after you have hunted them a while. I wait him out listening to the song birds and just enjoying the spring morning, and either he starts free gobbling mid to late morning, or I strike him midday and kill him. This approach takes time and patience, but it is one of the most rewarding hunts in my opinion.
 
Andy S.":2v9xvm4g said:
megalomaniac":2v9xvm4g said:
Oh, one more scenario that I've done... called to a bird with 7 or 8 hens... watched him breed each one, and as the morning progressed, each hen peeled off the flock to go lay. Once the last hen allowed him to breed her, he then came to me as she went off to lay.
I'm pretty sure I have done a modified version of this many times over the years, just did not see it and witness it firsthand because I was in hardwoods. A gobbler flies down with hens at daylight, answers me, but has not intention of coming to me. Pretty obvious after you have hunted them a while. I wait him out listening to the song birds and just enjoying the spring morning, and either he starts free gobbling mid to late morning, or I strike him midday and kill him. This approach takes time and patience, but it is one of the most rewarding hunts in my opinion.
Great post Andy!! I have had some of my best hunts late morning to midday and have killed some of my biggest birds during these times.


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Yea I've done it once. There is one type of call that usually will get any boss tom off his hens.

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catman529":27ol4xil said:
Yea I've done it once. There is one type of call that usually will get any boss tom off his hens.

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TreyB":1gizsuiy said:
Andy S.":1gizsuiy said:
Total BS......is that clear enough? :)

Think of it like this, and this is the internet approved version: you are a college jock, you are in the swimming pool with 10+ hotties, and this other "hen" is calling you telling you to leave them and go see her. Are you really going to get out of the pool, leave all of "that" and go find the other "suspect" hen? Hmmmmmmm.........I seriously doubt it. :)


Depends if that hen is DTF and the ones I am with isn't. :tu:


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Andy S.":nq6uirss said:
megalomaniac":nq6uirss said:
Oh, one more scenario that I've done... called to a bird with 7 or 8 hens... watched him breed each one, and as the morning progressed, each hen peeled off the flock to go lay. Once the last hen allowed him to breed her, he then came to me as she went off to lay.
I'm pretty sure I have done a modified version of this many times over the years, just did not see it and witness it firsthand because I was in hardwoods. A gobbler flies down with hens at daylight, answers me, but has not intention of coming to me. Pretty obvious after you have hunted them a while. I wait him out listening to the song birds and just enjoying the spring morning, and either he starts free gobbling mid to late morning, or I strike him midday and kill him. This approach takes time and patience, but it is one of the most rewarding hunts in my opinion.


that is a majority of my season and exactly how each morning ends up.
 
Andy S.":z2s3assu said:
megalomaniac":z2s3assu said:
Oh, one more scenario that I've done... called to a bird with 7 or 8 hens... watched him breed each one, and as the morning progressed, each hen peeled off the flock to go lay. Once the last hen allowed him to breed her, he then came to me as she went off to lay.
I'm pretty sure I have done a modified version of this many times over the years, just did not see it and witness it firsthand because I was in hardwoods. A gobbler flies down with hens at daylight, answers me, but has not intention of coming to me. Pretty obvious after you have hunted them a while. I wait him out listening to the song birds and just enjoying the spring morning, and either he starts free gobbling mid to late morning, or I strike him midday and kill him. This approach takes time and patience, but it is one of the most rewarding hunts in my opinion.

Good stuff, and anymore I think most of my birds fall into this category. I'm so patient that if I'm on a bird and feel he's still close I'll hang out, nap, etc until he fires back up. More times than not he does and many times he dies. It's almost like they remember in a way, and it costs them in the end.
 
I too think it's impossible to call a single gobbler away from his hens.

Most birds I kill are birds that I waited out for several hours after fly down, or I leave the area and come back about noon to find him lonely.




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3 situations i can think of that worked but you may not consider any of them calling the tom away.

1) with birds still on roost be the first hen he hears and do a fly down early. Occasionally i've had them fly down before the hens around him and get shot. So he's not really with hens on the ground but he leaves them in the tree.

2) i have seen a tom and hen together and just stay close without busting them and stay vocal. As soon as the tom breeds the hen he will come in quiet. So in essence he leaves the hen but he is through with her. Ive seen 2 killed within minutes of breeding and just walking away from the hen to the call and should have killed another in this way.

3) one bird i hunted 11 days straight hated any call. I got between him and the roost and just when the sun started fading i hit my hat on my leg like a bird flying up. He left the hens and walked to me. He could have been going to roost without the hens anyway but he left them before they would actually going to fly up.
 
PalsPal":21hq4gvp said:
megalomaniac":21hq4gvp said:
Oh, one more scenario that I've done... called to a bird with 7 or 8 hens... watched him breed each one, and as the morning progressed, each hen peeled off the flock to go lay.

That reminded me of a gobbler who was coming to me with the hen behind him down off a ridge. I just knew I had him until she ran past him and proceeded to assume the position :shock: .

That ended my chance :D !

That's all it took for me to back in the day.
 

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