MRUTVOL":3sgv7zji said:
Ok Setterman(Captin Hook )......Since blinds and decoys were made to help make turkey hunting be more successful for some lets apply your logic that you have preached for some time to art of deer hunting. Lets just say that deer calls(grunt,bleat,etc),cover scents,sent lures,camo clothing,commercial tree and tower stands,scopes,food plots just for deer hunting over,compound bows, rattling bags or horns and all other products that have been designed to help improve the odds of a hunter killing a buck deer were outlawed and not able to be used to hunt with. To use your logic anything that is designed to increase your odds of success should not be used. I would bet that for the most part you probably have used most if not all of them. So would that make you much less of a hunter than you think you are?
Even turkey calls are made to make turkey hunting more successful so if they outlawed all commercial turkey calls and can only use natural devices for calling such as made from bone or cedar or whatever then we might as well go back to slingshots and spears ! I have hunted with decoys and from blinds and I will tell you I have never had the easy experience that you had. As a matter of fact a decoy at times can cost you a turkey . I have had them work as much against me as much as they have worked for me. To each his own if it is legal I have no problem with it.
What does deer hunting have to do with turkey hunting? Nothing is the answer deer hunting is a completely separate deal, and not even remotely relevant to a conversation about hunting turkeys. I think this comparison happens, because a lot of turkey hunters became turkey hunters well after they hunted deer already. When I grew up the two were separate, and every one I know/knew used deer to pass time and provide meat until turkey season opened up. We are turkey hunters who deer hunt some but it's just something to do in the off season.
Do I believe that sitting in a blind helps you hide from turkeys, and get away with conversations, movement, etc? Yes, and it takes away a huge part of what makes turkey hunting challenging when done with nothing but a tree to lean against.
Do I believe decoys render calling insignificant and unnecessary basically eliminating another major challenge hunters face? Yep, knowing when to call, what call to make, which call to use, how loud, how soft, and how often are eliminated when all the bird has to do is see the decoys and he's on his way.
Do I believe camping in one spot staring at plastic turkeys while inside a fabric prison is not even close to the same as on the move with a couple of calls, shotgun, and nothing to hide yourself except whatever natural cover is nearby? Yep, they are not even close to the same in terms of challenge, fitness requirements, etc.
Do I believe that by eliminating one of the most challenging aspects of a turkey hunt which is choosing the best set up on a vocal bird in the woods, by camping in a blind makes things dramatically easier then having to make quick judgements as a bird closes ground to your calling? You bet I do.
So yes, I believe turkey hunting with the aid of blinds and decoys is dramatically easier then a more traditional approach. Easier to the point where after seeing it all I could do was laugh at how simplistic that form of hunting is, and something I have zero interest in ever being a part of again. Simple other than the absurd amount of gear required.
I'm not saying the hunters employ these tactics are bad hunters, bad people, nor do I wish to disrespect that style as it is effective but the fact remains it takes most of the challenging aspects of turkey hunting and eliminates them IMO.
FOR ME, it took all the enjoyment out of why I turkey hunt, and I was not entertained in the least other than by the conversations we were able to have while being completed concealed and being without worry of being busted by an otherwise wary animal due to the fabric prison and his attention focused on a Chinese made plastic turkey