Defeated

[Mike Belt]

Re: Defeated

It sort of sounds like you may be practicing a shot one way but shooting at birds another. You may be shouldering or sighting your gun differently from a squatted, sitting down position.

 

[Bgoodman30]

Re: Defeated

I just don't get how I can be so unlucky...

Thanks for listening..

My comments are meant more as constructive criticism rather than to come across harshly.
We all have made mistakes.

By carefully reading your posts,
it sounds more like you're not prioritizing your shooting skills, how your gun is hitting, etc.
rather than just being "unlucky".

Most of the accomplished turkey hunters will spend lots of time annually patterning, sighting in various turkey loads,
and most have gone to optical sights. And they will not take low-probability shots.

Bottom line, by your choosing to take low-probability shots, not an unlucky or luck issue,
good chance you killed 7 turkeys this season,
although none of them got into TWRA's over-rated "harvest data".

practicing and patterning definitely help, and are very important, but sometimes a big longbeard looking for you at 20 yards will scramble your brain and you won't be able to think straight....or shoot straight....


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They always do me the same way in the moment, only difference is they used to ride back home in the truck with me..


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[MickThompson]

Re: Defeated

Concentrate on your breathing to settle yourself. Draw a deep one in, slowly release it, then hold it 3 seconds once it's all the way out. Repeat. You want to shoot when you're completely empty. Practice this while you are target shooting and make this your hunting routine. Practice it on squirrels, deer you don't intend to shoot, whatever, while you're waiting on a gobbler or in the stand.



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[Gravey]

Re: Defeated

Maybe you're "jerking" or "pulling" the trigger instead of "squeezing" it or not keeping your head down if not both. Misses happen but there's more to it when there are 6 in a row. Hope you get it figured out.

 

[Bgoodman30]

Re: Defeated

Maybe you're "jerking" or "pulling" the trigger instead of "squeezing" it or not keeping your head down if not both. Misses happen but there's more to it when there are 6 in a row. Hope you get it figured out.

That could be it I think I might have developed a flinch when I shot my 835 but I don't think so in the moment. Never have a felt more recoil than what that 835 can dish out...

I think I'm rushing it, I feel like I try to shoot them like ducks which is a reflex if that makes sense?

If I could just get a turkey to not be so damn hot and hold still! Lol


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[Bgoodman30]

Re: Defeated

Concentrate on your breathing to settle yourself. Draw a deep one in, slowly release it, then hold it 3 seconds once it's all the way out. Repeat. You want to shoot when you're completely empty. Practice this while you are target shooting and make this your hunting routine. Practice it on squirrels, deer you don't intend to shoot, whatever, while you're waiting on a gobbler or in the stand.



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Great advice I need 7 do-overs...


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[MickThompson]

Re: Defeated

Concentrate on your breathing to settle yourself. Draw a deep one in, slowly release it, then hold it 3 seconds once it's all the way out. Repeat. You want to shoot when you're completely empty. Practice this while you are target shooting and make this your hunting routine. Practice it on squirrels, deer you don't intend to shoot, whatever, while you're waiting on a gobbler or in the stand.



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Great advice I need 7 do-overs...


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You can't do anything but learn all you can from them now.


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[catman529]

Re: Defeated

Concentrate on your breathing to settle yourself. Draw a deep one in, slowly release it, then hold it 3 seconds once it's all the way out. Repeat. You want to shoot when you're completely empty. Practice this while you are target shooting and make this your hunting routine. Practice it on squirrels, deer you don't intend to shoot, whatever, while you're waiting on a gobbler or in the stand.



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This sounds good, but the problem is often a bird shows up and only gives you a few seconds to shoot, while he's looking hard for you, and your adrenaline is pumping and your mind is spinning trying to calm down... practicing on squirrels or deer wouldn't be the same, it's easy enough to shoot a squirrel, I kill em freehand with a .22 and a lot of armadillos too, they don't get the adrenaline pumping like a big tom turkey does. Practicing is good for muscle memory, but you can't simulate a gobbler at 20 yards, I think for people like myself and Bgoodman it will take some time and experience to get over it...

 

[turkeyhunter]

Re: Defeated

adding a red dot scope to my shot gun best move I have made. I once missed 3 in one day! I got serious about patterning my gun found out that my gun hates number 5 shot . With the scope it doesnt matter where my head is ,as long as dot is on turkey it is dead. And practice trigger pull make sure you squeeze trigger.

 

[fairchaser]

Re: Defeated

I shoot off of a trigger stick if I can. It makes it really hard to miss when you have a solid rest. Also, I aim the shotgun like I would a .22 rifle. A spring kit to soften the trigger also helps with a trigger that surprises you when it breaks.

 

[woodsman04]

Re: Defeated

I've had a streak of misses but not that bad. I used to shoot and get up and run to the turkey like the old timers taught me. I actually caught myself one time getting up to go get him as I was shooting. From that miss on I make myself shoot the turkey, then I'll stand up and walk to him. Most people I think miss high, by trying to look over the barrel to see if they got him. My kisses were these and/or me shooting as I was standing up off the tree hahaha.

Hope this helps.


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[scn]

Re: Defeated

I've had a streak of misses but not that bad. I used to shoot and get up and run to the turkey like the old timers taught me. I actually caught myself one time getting up to go get him as I was shooting. From that miss on I make myself shoot the turkey, then I'll stand up and walk to him. Most people I think miss high, by trying to look over the barrel to see if they got him. My kisses were these and/or me shooting as I was standing up off the tree hahaha.

Hope this helps.


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x2 on the high misses from "peeking".

Harold Knight told me many years ago that looking to try to see the bird drop almost always resulted in a high miss. He related that he had three straight clients miss during one spring, which he said was a big problem for him. He said that most couldn't/wouldn't stay still enough to get a bird withing shooting range, and that when they did get a shot and missed, it made for a sour morning. His solution was to put a Pentax Lightseeker scope with a circle and crosshair on his "client" gun. He told me that after he got that set up, that his clients hadn't missed another bird. The scope helped keep their head down on the shot, and the high misses went away.

Although I hadn't missed at that time, it was solid enough advice for me to move to a scope. Knock on wood, with the exception of a couple of major range misjudgements using lead shot, I've never missed a bird. If you live to turkey hunt, having a dedicated turkey gun with some optics on it is a major help.

 

[woodsman04]

Re: Defeated

I've had a streak of misses but not that bad. I used to shoot and get up and run to the turkey like the old timers taught me. I actually caught myself one time getting up to go get him as I was shooting. From that miss on I make myself shoot the turkey, then I'll stand up and walk to him. Most people I think miss high, by trying to look over the barrel to see if they got him. My kisses were these and/or me shooting as I was standing up off the tree hahaha.

Hope this helps.


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x2 on the high misses from "peeking".

Harold Knight told me many years ago that looking to try to see the bird drop almost always resulted in a high miss. He related that he had three straight clients miss during one spring, which he said was a big problem for him. He said that most couldn't/wouldn't stay still enough to get a bird withing shooting range, and that when they did get a shot and missed, it made for a sour morning. His solution was to put a Pentax Lightseeker scope with a circle and crosshair on his "client" gun. He told me that after he got that set up, that his clients hadn't missed another bird. The scope helped keep their head down on the shot, and the high misses went away.

Although I hadn't missed at that time, it was solid enough advice for me to move to a scope. Knock on wood, with the exception of a couple of major range misjudgements using lead shot, I've never missed a bird. If you live to turkey hunt, having a dedicated turkey gun with some optics on it is a major help.

Correct on the scope. The red dots these days take all error out, as long as you got the dot on his head when you shoot he is dead.

I myself, rarely use one though. I just like an old bead.


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[Bgoodman30]

Re: Defeated

Well thank God for Kansas! It only took 30 minutes the first morning. I didn't hit him perfect but he dropped like a rock. Finally!!#monkeyoffmyback

 

[Southern Sportsman]

Re: Defeated

Congrats!!!!

That one has to feel good.

 

[muddyboots]

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Congrats man I was beginning to hurt right along with u

 

[Bgoodman30]

Re: Defeated

Congrats!!!!

That one has to feel good.

Thanks! Yes it was awesome. It was like I was shocked when he dropped like a hammer!


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[Bgoodman30]

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Congrats man I was beginning to hurt right along with u

Lol. Thanks! Overall it was a pretty good season I just don't have much meat in the freezer to show for it!?


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[Longbeard1975]

Re: Defeated

Just reading thru some old posts from the Spring. If you missed 6 Gobblers and wounded one then yes you need to quit or learn how to shoot. After missing two any normal person would have made some adjustments and got back on track. 6 in a row is a sign of stupidity...the game deserves better.

 

[SKFOOTER]

Re: Defeated

Just reading thru some old posts from the Spring. If you missed 6 Gobblers and wounded one then yes you need to quit or learn how to shoot. After missing two any normal person would have made some adjustments and got back on track. 6 in a row is a sign of stupidity...the game deserves better.

Don't expect very many "Welcome to TNDeer" responses with a first post like this.