jeff034fun
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what is the fastest bow out today
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paradis1142
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Pse OMEN
jeff034fun
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thanks
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jeff034fun
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lolUTGrad said:
bowhunter163
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Matthews monster XLR8 will shoot right with the omen .
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The Omen Pro is a 5.5" bh I believe and the XLR8 is a 5".
Fast, but at a cost. Very unforgiving when compared to longer BH bows. You could not give me either one to hunt with.UTGrad said:
i wish someone would give me one of bothAndy S. said:
forgivness is in the hands of the shooter, havnt seen one yet i couldnt deflate a set of lungs with :grin:
TNDeerGuy
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knightrider said:i wish someone would give me one of bothAndy S. said:
But, with all of the unseen variables and countless different situations that we as archers may potentially encounter, I want a bow that offers the most forgiveness I can get. It is not because of my abilities, but because of what I may encounter in hunting situations that may equal my abilities�and non-forgiving, or ill-fitted equipment only unbalances the scales out of your favor, regardless of who you are.
nope i dont buy into the forgivness crap, if the drawlength is correct and the form of the shooter is correct and practice is done daily there is not a brace height difference to me, i like the shortest ata and brace height bow i can get.illfitted equipment should be a thing of the past with all the tools for correct fit that are available now, we are not talking compounds of the 70 and 80's these are high tech machines that become an extention of your arm that are made to fit you like a glove , so you cant pull the forgiveness factor on me.it all comes down to correct draw length and practice daily not 2 dozen shots the day before the opener of deer seasonTNDeerGuy said:knightrider said:i wish someone would give me one of bothAndy S. said:
But, with all of the unseen variables and countless different situations that we as archers may potentially encounter, I want a bow that offers the most forgiveness I can get. It is not because of my abilities, but because of what I may encounter in hunting situations that may equal my abilities�and non-forgiving, or ill-fitted equipment only unbalances the scales out of your favor, regardless of who you are.
TNDeerGuy
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knightrider said:nope i dont buy into the forgivness crap, if the drawlength is correct and the form of the shooter is correct and practice is done daily there is not a brace height difference to me, i like the shortest ata and brace height bow i can get.illfitted equipment should be a thing of the past with all the tools for correct fit that are available now, we are not talking compounds of the 70 and 80's these are high tech machines that become an extention of your arm that are made to fit you like a glove , so you cant pull the forgiveness factor on me.it all comes down to correct draw length and practice daily not 2 dozen shots the day before the opener of deer seasonTNDeerGuy said:knightrider said:i wish someone would give me one of bothAndy S. said:
But, with all of the unseen variables and countless different situations that we as archers may potentially encounter, I want a bow that offers the most forgiveness I can get. It is not because of my abilities, but because of what I may encounter in hunting situations that may equal my abilities�and non-forgiving, or ill-fitted equipment only unbalances the scales out of your favor, regardless of who you are.
...and that is your choice!
When that "trophy" you have been hunting all year steps out and the only shot you have is a form-breaking, stooping down and leaning to the side away from the tree shot let me know how that 5" brace height works out for you, but it is YOUR choice--and there are many, many, many of us out there that do not shoot a 5" brace height and yet we practice year around.
One more point...how many World Champions, or Professional Archers shoot a 5" brace height--maybe one?
My point is...there a very few that can consistently and ACCURATELY shoot a 5" brace height bow--especially in hunting situations.
jeff034fun
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what do you mean about unforgiving
Unicam
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Short Brace Height+Fast Bow=miss faster....
Will stick with my Drenalin, plenty fast and very forgiving!
Will stick with my Drenalin, plenty fast and very forgiving!
i can accurately hit a skoal can out to 60 yards all day long no matter how im posistioned because i practice that way, if your a hunter you practice for those not so perfect situations, it is my responsibility to know my equipment and my limitations, i could care less what world champs are shooting, i shoot what works for me and forgivness is in the archer and you cant convince me otherwise you can either shoot or you cant bottom line. it all boils down to perfect fit and practice, and yes this is just my opinion on the subject that forgivness is horsewarsh :grin:TNDeerGuy said:knightrider said:nope i dont buy into the forgivness crap, if the drawlength is correct and the form of the shooter is correct and practice is done daily there is not a brace height difference to me, i like the shortest ata and brace height bow i can get.illfitted equipment should be a thing of the past with all the tools for correct fit that are available now, we are not talking compounds of the 70 and 80's these are high tech machines that become an extention of your arm that are made to fit you like a glove , so you cant pull the forgiveness factor on me.it all comes down to correct draw length and practice daily not 2 dozen shots the day before the opener of deer seasonTNDeerGuy said:knightrider said:i wish someone would give me one of bothAndy S. said:
But, with all of the unseen variables and countless different situations that we as archers may potentially encounter, I want a bow that offers the most forgiveness I can get. It is not because of my abilities, but because of what I may encounter in hunting situations that may equal my abilities�and non-forgiving, or ill-fitted equipment only unbalances the scales out of your favor, regardless of who you are.
...and that is your choice!
When that "trophy" you have been hunting all year steps out and the only shot you have is a form-breaking, stooping down and leaning to the side away from the tree shot let me know how that 5" brace height works out for you, but it is YOUR choice--and there are many, many, many of us out there that do not shoot a 5" brace height and yet we practice year around.
One more point...how many World Champions, or Professional Archers shoot a 5" brace height--maybe one?
My point is...there a very few that can consistently and ACCURATELY shoot a 5" brace height bow--especially in hunting situations.
TNDeerGuy
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knightrider said:i can accurately hit a skoal can out to 60 yards all day long no matter how im posistioned because i practice that way, if your a hunter you practice for those not so perfect situations, it is my responsibility to know my equipment and my limitations, i could care less what world champs are shooting, i shoot what works for me and forgivness is in the archer and you cant convince me otherwise you can either shoot or you cant bottom line. it all boils down to perfect fit and practice, and yes this is just my opinion on the subject that forgivness is horsewarsh :grin:TNDeerGuy said:knightrider said:nope i dont buy into the forgivness crap, if the drawlength is correct and the form of the shooter is correct and practice is done daily there is not a brace height difference to me, i like the shortest ata and brace height bow i can get.illfitted equipment should be a thing of the past with all the tools for correct fit that are available now, we are not talking compounds of the 70 and 80's these are high tech machines that become an extention of your arm that are made to fit you like a glove , so you cant pull the forgiveness factor on me.it all comes down to correct draw length and practice daily not 2 dozen shots the day before the opener of deer seasonTNDeerGuy said:knightrider said:i wish someone would give me one of bothAndy S. said:
But, with all of the unseen variables and countless different situations that we as archers may potentially encounter, I want a bow that offers the most forgiveness I can get. It is not because of my abilities, but because of what I may encounter in hunting situations that may equal my abilities�and non-forgiving, or ill-fitted equipment only unbalances the scales out of your favor, regardless of who you are.
...and that is your choice!
When that "trophy" you have been hunting all year steps out and the only shot you have is a form-breaking, stooping down and leaning to the side away from the tree shot let me know how that 5" brace height works out for you, but it is YOUR choice--and there are many, many, many of us out there that do not shoot a 5" brace height and yet we practice year around.
One more point...how many World Champions, or Professional Archers shoot a 5" brace height--maybe one?
My point is...there a very few that can consistently and ACCURATELY shoot a 5" brace height bow--especially in hunting situations.
That's wonderful that you can shoot an extremely low brace height with such confidence and accuracy, an exceptional archer you must be!
However, personally I would never recommend a low brace height to just anyone because of the very reduced forgiveness because the arrow is on the string for an increased amount of time because of the low brace height which gives a longer power stroke (the key to increased speed)�which it all equates to more susceptibility to shooting inconsistency because magnified form errors because of the increased amount of time the arrow is in contact with the bow. Anyone can drive a car, not just anyone can drive a racecar�even racecar drivers make mistakes that wouldn't show up if they were in a normal car is an analogy that fits the moment. The point is, there are a ton of bows that are available in a 7" brace height that have all of the speed anyone hunting in North America needs and they have comparable kinetic energy to the "speed" bows when it is all said and done with. Choose a bow that fits properly, is smooth and easy to draw back, one that you can shoot accurately, gives little hand shock and most of all....is comfortable to you! Speed has NEVER killed a single thing, accuracy is the only thing that kills!
lung-buster
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I had the Omen and traded it like a moron a while back. I always shot a "regular" hunting bow before. The Omen was deadly fast and accurate set at 73# with a 29" draw. I hope to pick me up another one this summer. True that speed dosent kill but it sure put a smile on my face shooting it.
speed does kill if you have enough and misjudge your yarage by a few, the flatter it shoots, leaves more room on judging distance. so speed sure does help in the killing advantage
bowhunterfanatic
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Use a rangefinder and you don't have to worry about judging distance!
