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Gators Are Going Down

It has reached a point where Tennessee can't keep getting coaches and firing them in 3 years.I don't think that Tennessee can afford hiring new coaches and firing them in 3 years.All your better established coaches would not touch Tennessee with a ten foot pole.They are well aware of Tennessee's fans and how quick they will turn on a coach if they fail to show immediate results
 
Obviously not a vol fan but here is my opinion. I did play college football and know a little about the sport. Not all the blame can go on Butch. The OC should take a lot of the heat. Illegal substitutions and poor game clock management falls on the OC as much as the head coach. Based on recruiting classes, I believe Butch can recruit and he's gotten the fan base back for UT.
 
I could be wrong, but I think he is in way over his head and the longer we keep him the longer we will be a 6-6 7-5 team and we will stop getting these big time recruits. Keeping him just to give him 4 years if we know in 3 it isn't going to work out could cause our program to go backwards. Right now he has gotten some good recruits and has our program talent wise going in right direction. I promise alabama or florida or any of the big time schools would not put up with this. I know he has said he relies on analytics a lot, but I don't think that's working for him to well. We need true football knowledge.

I'm all vol but after tonight I'm not all butch and nothing will change my mind. He is good at hyping up and getting fan base excited but I would think a huge percentage feels like I do after Florida last year, Oklahoma and now this Florida game. I think he lost a lot of all out support tonight.
 
Will Butch fire DeBoring or pull a Fulmer and be hard headed and go down in flames with his horrible OC? There's a reason that dinosaur was over the Olympic ballet team
 
wayne":2gh52hbl said:
Wrangler95":2gh52hbl said:
I'll tell you guys it's more to this than Butch Jones only,this losing streak goes all the way back to Phil Fulmer,Lane Kiffin,Dereck Dooley and now Butch Jones.Dave Hart is not gonna fire Jones this year for sure but I believe he might if still losing in 2016.We still have a great chance to win a least 8 games or more.I'm as dissapointed as any other Vol fan but I'm not giving up on the season.The only questionable call I saw by Jones was not going for two points instead of kicking the extra point
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It's time to stop blaming Fulmer, Kiffin and Dooley.
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I'm not blaming anyone,its a fact that the past 4 coaches lost to Florida and if Jones is fired in the next few years,the next Tennessee coach will lose to Florida also.I see that Auburn fans are calling for Gus Malzon to be fired,its the same at every big time football program,Texas fans are already getting down on Charlie Strong in his second year.
 
time for butch to go to the bull pen. give the fans some hope. Dobbs is a novelty. you have talent on the bench. UT has no vertical passing game. got to have passer who can challenge the edges, not just between the numbers. next man up
 
Butch has had some questionable calls in my opinion but I'm not ready to throw the towel in on him. At the end of the day players have to make plays. I said when he was hired he needed four years and to me that's all new incoming head coaches. The cupboard was bare and its getting stocked with good talent. Now they've got to get over the next hump and close games out. I'm as ready as the next Vol fan to turn the corner but gotta be realistic too. That said they should be 4-0 right now.
 
I suspect GnB is restraining himself until the emotion dies down and the sting subsides. Once things have cooled off I assume the next 12 months of taunting will begin. [emoji3]
 
Vermin93":2ms8hmz0 said:
I suspect GnB is restraining himself until the emotion dies down and the sting subsides. Once things have cooled off I assume the next 12 months of taunting will begin. [emoji3]
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Nope... Hunting season starts once this game is over. It's all in fun and keep in mind that most of my friends that I have made over the last 27 yrs in Knoxville/TN are Vol Fans.

It's a game that kids play and it really doesn't change anything no matter what team wins. Tomorrow will come and I will be hunting... :)

Now when recruiting and July comes around.... We will be back at it... :)
 
Bigswede3423":7pgw102p said:
Obviously not a vol fan but here is my opinion. I did play college football and know a little about the sport. Not all the blame can go on Butch. The OC should take a lot of the heat. Illegal substitutions and poor game clock management falls on the OC as much as the head coach. Based on recruiting classes, I believe Butch can recruit and he's gotten the fan base back for UT.
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Seems that every loss to most fans,they either want the coach fired or put in another QB.It is the same at every major football program they expect their team to win every game and most fans have very little patience.Tennessee wins have not been impressive but they have sure improved since Butch Jones has been coach.Tennessee could be so easily undefeated and ranked in the top 20
 
redblood":1f5nycgw said:
time for butch to go to the bull pen. give the fans some hope. Dobbs is a novelty. you have talent on the bench. UT has no vertical passing game. got to have passer who can challenge the edges, not just between the numbers. next man up
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I said in a post yesterday that Tennessee's best passer is sitting on the bench
 
Wrangler95":enp6n8q4 said:
redblood":enp6n8q4 said:
time for butch to go to the bull pen. give the fans some hope. Dobbs is a novelty. you have talent on the bench. UT has no vertical passing game. got to have passer who can challenge the edges, not just between the numbers. next man up
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I said in a post yesterday that Tennessee's best passer is sitting on the bench
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This is a fact, I would rather have dormandy in throwing some deep balls and using these wide receivers....I feel sorry for those guys! WRU? We can't say that right now....no way.
 
Wrangler95":1l8mkslj said:
Bigswede3423":1l8mkslj said:
Obviously not a vol fan but here is my opinion. I did play college football and know a little about the sport. Not all the blame can go on Butch. The OC should take a lot of the heat. Illegal substitutions and poor game clock management falls on the OC as much as the head coach. Based on recruiting classes, I believe Butch can recruit and he's gotten the fan base back for UT.
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Seems that every loss to most fans,they either want the coach fired or put in another QB.It is the same at every major football program they expect their team to win every game and most fans have very little patience.Tennessee wins have not been impressive but they have sure improved since Butch Jones has been coach.Tennessee could be so easily undefeated and ranked in the top 20
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Wrangler you do realize why the team isn't 4-0 and in the top 20 don't you?
It's because of the play calling which trickles down from our staff.

Sure they can recruit and are full of catchy Cliches, but in the end they can't coach on game day.
Sure they have some plays that are effective but when you get the lead you don't go all milk the clock and hope to win. You put your foot on the throat until they stop wiggling.
No excuse not to win in a blowout today. The talent is there but the orders aren't. I'm embarrassed as a fan and feel so bad for the players. They deserve better.
We've got 2 more for sure losses on the schedule and could have 5 more on top of that very easily.

I don't know how much more I can stomach of these heartbreak's.
Tennessee is 44-0 with a 13 point lead in the 4th we are now 44-2

No excuse. Something's got to give. I'm pulling for Butch but I'm really having my doubts.


Sent from the barrel of a model 70 at 3300 fps
 
McCoy":e37e8sr4 said:
Wrangler95":e37e8sr4 said:
redblood":e37e8sr4 said:
time for butch to go to the bull pen. give the fans some hope. Dobbs is a novelty. you have talent on the bench. UT has no vertical passing game. got to have passer who can challenge the edges, not just between the numbers. next man up
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I said in a post yesterday that Tennessee's best passer is sitting on the bench
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This is a fact, I would rather have dormandy in throwing some deep balls and using these wide receivers....I feel sorry for those guys! WRU? We can't say that right now....no way.
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yep.the strength of the team is the WR's and they are put on a shelf because of QB limitations
 
Bigswede3423":mu01f994 said:
Obviously not a vol fan but here is my opinion. I did play college football and know a little about the sport. Not all the blame can go on Butch. The OC should take a lot of the heat. Illegal substitutions and poor game clock management falls on the OC as much as the head coach. Based on recruiting classes, I believe Butch can recruit and he's gotten the fan base back for UT.
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ive got to agree with that plus our offensive line just aint getting it done
 
Can't blame Dobbs for this one. Without him, we wouldn't have scored. Yes Dormady is a much better passer, but with this OLine, you can't throw from flat on your back.

The in-game coaching is sub-par. There is no spinning it. As mentioned, the players deserve better. Hurd, Dobbs, and most of the defense left their blood, sweat, and tears on that field and deserved to walk away with a W.

I feel bad for Medley. He had been shaky this season, and those two earlier kicks were huge. I heard the whistle blow on the first attempt, and just knew that he was gonna make the game winner. And I thought it was going to hook in at the last moment. When it didn't, it just put icing on the cake for one of the most stressful days I have ever had.

BTW, Butch isn't going anywhere. We just have to hope that he can improve. He will recruit well enough to win 8-9 games a year with an occasional BIG win. And we will just have to live with it.

Oh well, congrats Gators. We'll get you next year ;) !
 

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