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catman529

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According to Wildlife Labs, cementum annuli aging is 85% accurate on whitetail. BSK said that a drought in the south could add a year to the growth rings. This deer lived around river bottoms with easy access to water, so I'm not sure how that affects the result. Either way, I think it's pretty cool.
 
If that 8.5 is accurate, this aging method is going to make the age on the hoof gurus take notice. I wish you would've posted the November 2021 pic and asked for guesses first (maybe you did). I'd be shocked if you got one guess over 4.5. Going by what I've learned here I would've bet a steak dinner he wasn't over 4.5. I'm a novice at aging but he looks nowhere near 5.5 to me, much less 8.5. Is what we've been told all along just plain wrong?
 
Spurhunter said:
If that 8.5 is accurate, this aging method is going to make the age on the hoof gurus take notice. I wish you would've posted the November 2021 pic and asked for guesses first (maybe you did). I'd be shocked if you got one guess over 4.5. Going by what I've learned here I would've bet a steak dinner he wasn't over 4.5. I'm a novice at aging but he looks nowhere near 5.5 to me, much less 8.5. Is what we've been told all along just plain wrong?
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It's not that it's wrong, it's just that deer can vary so much it's never 100% accurate. It's just an educated guess. The area I killed him has some noticeably smaller bodied deer for middle TN, at least smaller than the average Williamson or Davidson county deer. So genetics come into play not just for the individual deer but for the whole local herd as well. And there's environmental factors like stress too, but his rack grew since last year so I believe he was a healthy deer.
 
catman529 said:
It's not that it's wrong, it's just that deer can vary so much it's never 100% accurate. It's just an educated guess. The area I killed him has some noticeably smaller bodied deer for middle TN, at least smaller than the average Williamson or Davidson county deer. So genetics come into play not just for the individual deer but for the whole local herd as well. And there's environmental factors like stress too, but his rack grew since last year so I believe he was a healthy deer.
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That's exactly what I'm saying. Judging on the hoof is nowhere near an exact science. We see people all the time say they let a 140 walk because he was only 3.5 or they only shoot 5.5 and up. They would've passed this deer and if the science is accurate, he's way beyond their age requirements.
 
That's crazy. No telling how many people walked that deer thinking he was young.

On a side note, that's why I laugh at all these age my deer posts from tooth wear and or trail cam pics.
 
Also interesting that his rack continued to grow. Sometimes start seeing regression when they hit that age. I guessed 5-6 on the initial jawbone post. When we miss jawbone ages, it's pretty much always underaged. I'm not surprised by 7+. But BSK is right, CAT has been shown to be less accurate in the southeast.
 
catman529 said:
November 2020:

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November 2021:

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According to Wildlife Labs, cementum annuli aging is 85% accurate on whitetail. BSK said that a drought in the south could add a year to the growth rings. This deer lived around river bottoms with easy access to water, so I'm not sure how that affects the result. Either way, I think it's pretty cool.
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I dont think your 2021 live pic and kill pic are the same deer at all.
 
Os2Outdoors said:
That's crazy. No telling how many people walked that deer thinking he was young.

On a side note, that's why I laugh at all these age my deer posts from tooth wear and or trail cam pics.
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Being a generally overlooked area, he probably didn't see too many hunters. I could be wrong. But you're dang right about aging deer off of pics.
 
Did you post a guess his age thread? Thought you did, curious how far off the consensus was. I never would have guessed 8.5, that is up there for a deer.
 
rem270 said:
He has a 2021 pic of it looking head on just like the 2020 pic that you can tell it's 💯 the same deer.
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@catman529 can you post these pics up?
The 2020 pic and the kill pic make it seem like that deer put on some serious antler and body growth between 7 and 8.
 
Wow. Totally agreed when you originally posted on 3.5 last year and 4.5 this year. No way to know if 8.5 is accurate. Most of the time, everything 4.5 and 5.5 plus I'm confident on. Once they get REALLY old, it confuses the hell out of me and many times they look 2.5 and 3.5 in the really late season. Baffling
 

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