TheAirMan
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Yeah Kyle has like over half as many wins in last season and this one as Jr. has his whole career.
oakclimber said:he will make the chase,no doubt.jr has been saying to ease up on tony jr,and to place the blame on himself. they both need to communicate better with one another. how many times has jr had a good car and the last pit stop the car gets way over adjusted. the car will be a hair loose and after pitting he the car wont even turn.backstraps said:oakclimber said:HEY,, superboy kyle didnt have a good race at martinsville. what happened!! maybe jr should have been driving the 18 car this weekend. :/
This is a funny comment... lets watch the rest of the races.. and compare how those 2 finish.. especially at the end of the year. Wonder if the 88 will even make the chase.
Hendrick said he knew what the problem was inside the 88 camp...
and was making adjustments. Maybe he found something?
I hate hearing that Tony Jr keeps catching the heat for the lack of performance... If JR cannot tell Tony Jr how the track and car is changing during the race...how can the crew chief make the adjustments needed?
if you have never noticed when jr had the car to beat and the car got overadjusted on the last stop,then start watching some races and quit being a monday morning nascar.com'er. gordon better than sr? :crazy: dont have time to be playing patty cake with you.NCST8GUY said:oakclimber said:he will make the chase,no doubt.jr has been saying to ease up on tony jr,and to place the blame on himself. they both need to communicate better with one another. how many times has jr had a good car and the last pit stop the car gets way over adjusted. the car will be a hair loose and after pitting he the car wont even turn.backstraps said:oakclimber said:HEY,, superboy kyle didnt have a good race at martinsville. what happened!! maybe jr should have been driving the 18 car this weekend. :/
This is a funny comment... lets watch the rest of the races.. and compare how those 2 finish.. especially at the end of the year. Wonder if the 88 will even make the chase.
Hendrick said he knew what the problem was inside the 88 camp...
and was making adjustments. Maybe he found something?
I hate hearing that Tony Jr keeps catching the heat for the lack of performance... If JR cannot tell Tony Jr how the track and car is changing during the race...how can the crew chief make the adjustments needed?
Im still waiting for JR to have this "good car" you speak of.
And yes, I believe Gordon is indeed a better driver than SR was.
How many ways can you dispute that?
oakclimber said:so what, gordon has more wins than dale sr. does that make gordon a better driver? i think not
yeah I'm serious. Another way to determine the best driver is by championships.NICHOLS3 said:oakclimber said:so what, gordon has more wins than dale sr. does that make gordon a better driver? i think not
are you serious? how else can you determine who the best drivers are I think wins would be the number one thing to look at. I know equipment has changed and the big money teams get the best cars, but Childress had/has money.
oakclimber said:he will make the chase,no doubt.jr has been saying to ease up on tony jr,and to place the blame on himself. they both need to communicate better with one another. how many times has jr had a good car and the last pit stop the car gets way over adjusted. the car will be a hair loose and after pitting he the car wont even turn.backstraps said:oakclimber said:HEY,, superboy kyle didnt have a good race at martinsville. what happened!! maybe jr should have been driving the 18 car this weekend. :/
This is a funny comment... lets watch the rest of the races.. and compare how those 2 finish.. especially at the end of the year. Wonder if the 88 will even make the chase.
Hendrick said he knew what the problem was inside the 88 camp...
and was making adjustments. Maybe he found something?
I hate hearing that Tony Jr keeps catching the heat for the lack of performance... If JR cannot tell Tony Jr how the track and car is changing during the race...how can the crew chief make the adjustments needed?
1. all he can say is what the car is doing(tight,loose,etc). the crew chiefs responsibility is to fix that problem. how many positions does jr gain when he pits under green? most of the time he loses positions or he's the same when he comes out,so i dont believe its all his fault like some say. 2. what driver have you listened to that doesnt whine,cry or cusses(they all do). 3. yeah, "good" drivers do win races every once in a while(#24 hasn't won since 2007,so i guess he's not a good driver,huh). 4. the more cheers you get the more haters you get from other drivers fans. its true that jr does get alot of his fans from his father who is a 7 times cup champion. richard petty is a 7 time champion too,but how many kyle fans do you see? not very many(because he's not even competitive).backstraps said:oakclimber said:he will make the chase,no doubt.jr has been saying to ease up on tony jr,and to place the blame on himself. they both need to communicate better with one another. how many times has jr had a good car and the last pit stop the car gets way over adjusted. the car will be a hair loose and after pitting he the car wont even turn.backstraps said:oakclimber said:HEY,, superboy kyle didnt have a good race at martinsville. what happened!! maybe jr should have been driving the 18 car this weekend. :/
This is a funny comment... lets watch the rest of the races.. and compare how those 2 finish.. especially at the end of the year. Wonder if the 88 will even make the chase.
Hendrick said he knew what the problem was inside the 88 camp...
and was making adjustments. Maybe he found something?
I hate hearing that Tony Jr keeps catching the heat for the lack of performance... If JR cannot tell Tony Jr how the track and car is changing during the race...how can the crew chief make the adjustments needed?
I will ask an easy question: This awful last pit stop you guys speak of..who is to say JR didnt get what he told the crew chief he needed? At least that is what I hear when I am on the scanner. That boy whines and cries, cusses Tony Jr, the pit crew, everyone! Because his car wont perform. I think he has a problem of knowing exactly what changes to make to the car...or what exactly the car is doing, OR lacking the ability to communicate and tell the crew chief what is up with the car. All of which are needed to be a good driver.
The "good" drivers... you know the ones that actually win a race every once and a while they can tell their crew chiefs what they the car needs, and the changes they think are best. I mean they are the guys in the seat, not the crew chief. The crew chief works ONLY with what the driver communicates.
You know something I always find funny is how the fans at a track will jump out of teir seats, yell, scream, cheer, wave their beers, etc "JUST" when JR takes the lead...ever wonder why?
I think they know they better do it while he is actually leading the race. They know the chances are the wont get to watch him win a race... lol
I am just pulling your chain, have fun with your comment back to me. PS: I am not a Kyle Fan (but enjoy reading his haters comments) so that wont be any fun for ya ;-)
oakclimber said:1. all he can say is what the car is doing(tight,loose,etc). the crew chiefs responsibility is to fix that problem. how many positions does jr gain when he pits under green? most of the time he loses positions or he's the same when he comes out,so i dont believe its all his fault like some say. 2. what driver have you listened to that doesnt whine,cry or cusses(they all do). 3. yeah, "good" drivers do win races every once in a while(#24 hasn't won since 2007,so i guess he's not a good driver,huh). 4. the more cheers you get the more haters you get from other drivers fans. its true that jr does get alot of his fans from his father who is a 7 times cup champion. richard petty is a 7 time champion too,but how many kyle fans do you see? not very many(because he's not even competitive).backstraps said:oakclimber said:he will make the chase,no doubt.jr has been saying to ease up on tony jr,and to place the blame on himself. they both need to communicate better with one another. how many times has jr had a good car and the last pit stop the car gets way over adjusted. the car will be a hair loose and after pitting he the car wont even turn.backstraps said:oakclimber said:HEY,, superboy kyle didnt have a good race at martinsville. what happened!! maybe jr should have been driving the 18 car this weekend. :/
This is a funny comment... lets watch the rest of the races.. and compare how those 2 finish.. especially at the end of the year. Wonder if the 88 will even make the chase.
Hendrick said he knew what the problem was inside the 88 camp...
and was making adjustments. Maybe he found something?
I hate hearing that Tony Jr keeps catching the heat for the lack of performance... If JR cannot tell Tony Jr how the track and car is changing during the race...how can the crew chief make the adjustments needed?
I will ask an easy question: This awful last pit stop you guys speak of..who is to say JR didnt get what he told the crew chief he needed? At least that is what I hear when I am on the scanner. That boy whines and cries, cusses Tony Jr, the pit crew, everyone! Because his car wont perform. I think he has a problem of knowing exactly what changes to make to the car...or what exactly the car is doing, OR lacking the ability to communicate and tell the crew chief what is up with the car. All of which are needed to be a good driver.
The "good" drivers... you know the ones that actually win a race every once and a while they can tell their crew chiefs what they the car needs, and the changes they think are best. I mean they are the guys in the seat, not the crew chief. The crew chief works ONLY with what the driver communicates.
You know something I always find funny is how the fans at a track will jump out of teir seats, yell, scream, cheer, wave their beers, etc "JUST" when JR takes the lead...ever wonder why?
I think they know they better do it while he is actually leading the race. They know the chances are the wont get to watch him win a race... lol
I am just pulling your chain, have fun with your comment back to me. PS: I am not a Kyle Fan (but enjoy reading his haters comments) so that wont be any fun for ya ;-)
i dont think richard petty has a son named kyle busch. :crazy: name one time i ever said jr was the best driver out there.backstraps said:oakclimber said:1. all he can say is what the car is doing(tight,loose,etc). the crew chiefs responsibility is to fix that problem. how many positions does jr gain when he pits under green? most of the time he loses positions or he's the same when he comes out,so i dont believe its all his fault like some say. 2. what driver have you listened to that doesnt whine,cry or cusses(they all do). 3. yeah, "good" drivers do win races every once in a while(#24 hasn't won since 2007,so i guess he's not a good driver,huh). 4. the more cheers you get the more haters you get from other drivers fans. its true that jr does get alot of his fans from his father who is a 7 times cup champion. richard petty is a 7 time champion too,but how many kyle fans do you see? not very many(because he's not even competitive).backstraps said:oakclimber said:he will make the chase,no doubt.jr has been saying to ease up on tony jr,and to place the blame on himself. they both need to communicate better with one another. how many times has jr had a good car and the last pit stop the car gets way over adjusted. the car will be a hair loose and after pitting he the car wont even turn.backstraps said:oakclimber said:HEY,, superboy kyle didnt have a good race at martinsville. what happened!! maybe jr should have been driving the 18 car this weekend. :/
This is a funny comment... lets watch the rest of the races.. and compare how those 2 finish.. especially at the end of the year. Wonder if the 88 will even make the chase.
Hendrick said he knew what the problem was inside the 88 camp...
and was making adjustments. Maybe he found something?
I hate hearing that Tony Jr keeps catching the heat for the lack of performance... If JR cannot tell Tony Jr how the track and car is changing during the race...how can the crew chief make the adjustments needed?
I will ask an easy question: This awful last pit stop you guys speak of..who is to say JR didnt get what he told the crew chief he needed? At least that is what I hear when I am on the scanner. That boy whines and cries, cusses Tony Jr, the pit crew, everyone! Because his car wont perform. I think he has a problem of knowing exactly what changes to make to the car...or what exactly the car is doing, OR lacking the ability to communicate and tell the crew chief what is up with the car. All of which are needed to be a good driver.
The "good" drivers... you know the ones that actually win a race every once and a while they can tell their crew chiefs what they the car needs, and the changes they think are best. I mean they are the guys in the seat, not the crew chief. The crew chief works ONLY with what the driver communicates.
You know something I always find funny is how the fans at a track will jump out of teir seats, yell, scream, cheer, wave their beers, etc "JUST" when JR takes the lead...ever wonder why?
I think they know they better do it while he is actually leading the race. They know the chances are the wont get to watch him win a race... lol
I am just pulling your chain, have fun with your comment back to me. PS: I am not a Kyle Fan (but enjoy reading his haters comments) so that wont be any fun for ya ;-)
Oak, I can understand your reply except your last sentence...PLEASE tell me you are referring to Kyle Petty?
Oh and BTW I love the King, BUT wonder how many championships todays drivers could accumulate racing the number of races they did back then? As for comparing the 24 to JR... that makes me laugh myself silly!! I dont cheer for anyone (except M. Martin) on the Hendricks team... so by no means is the rainbow warrior on my list of favorites.
Look, all plain and simple: JR hardly compares to any of the "top tier" drivers in todays NASCAR series! He needs to drive his own car in the NAtionwide Series..MAYBE then he can win another race!
media overrates. only a handfull of races so far this year and he's not getting the job done? mechanical problems dont help with the points situation,just ask mark martin. btw i hope your happy,cause you just hurt my feelingsCarlos said:Jr. is way over-rated. I don't mean to hurt your feelings but he's just not getting it done, no matter the last name.
#1 I was referring to your reply about "kyle" after mentioning the King... #2 you are correct, no way would I assued you would even you would think 88 is the best driver out there.oakclimber said:i dont think richard petty has a son named kyle busch. :crazy: name one time i ever said jr was the best driver out there.backstraps said:oakclimber said:1. all he can say is what the car is doing(tight,loose,etc). the crew chiefs responsibility is to fix that problem. how many positions does jr gain when he pits under green? most of the time he loses positions or he's the same when he comes out,so i dont believe its all his fault like some say. 2. what driver have you listened to that doesnt whine,cry or cusses(they all do). 3. yeah, "good" drivers do win races every once in a while(#24 hasn't won since 2007,so i guess he's not a good driver,huh). 4. the more cheers you get the more haters you get from other drivers fans. its true that jr does get alot of his fans from his father who is a 7 times cup champion. richard petty is a 7 time champion too,but how many kyle fans do you see? not very many(because he's not even competitive).backstraps said:oakclimber said:he will make the chase,no doubt.jr has been saying to ease up on tony jr,and to place the blame on himself. they both need to communicate better with one another. how many times has jr had a good car and the last pit stop the car gets way over adjusted. the car will be a hair loose and after pitting he the car wont even turn.backstraps said:oakclimber said:HEY,, superboy kyle didnt have a good race at martinsville. what happened!! maybe jr should have been driving the 18 car this weekend. :/
This is a funny comment... lets watch the rest of the races.. and compare how those 2 finish.. especially at the end of the year. Wonder if the 88 will even make the chase.
Hendrick said he knew what the problem was inside the 88 camp...
and was making adjustments. Maybe he found something?
I hate hearing that Tony Jr keeps catching the heat for the lack of performance... If JR cannot tell Tony Jr how the track and car is changing during the race...how can the crew chief make the adjustments needed?
I will ask an easy question: This awful last pit stop you guys speak of..who is to say JR didnt get what he told the crew chief he needed? At least that is what I hear when I am on the scanner. That boy whines and cries, cusses Tony Jr, the pit crew, everyone! Because his car wont perform. I think he has a problem of knowing exactly what changes to make to the car...or what exactly the car is doing, OR lacking the ability to communicate and tell the crew chief what is up with the car. All of which are needed to be a good driver.
The "good" drivers... you know the ones that actually win a race every once and a while they can tell their crew chiefs what they the car needs, and the changes they think are best. I mean they are the guys in the seat, not the crew chief. The crew chief works ONLY with what the driver communicates.
You know something I always find funny is how the fans at a track will jump out of teir seats, yell, scream, cheer, wave their beers, etc "JUST" when JR takes the lead...ever wonder why?
I think they know they better do it while he is actually leading the race. They know the chances are the wont get to watch him win a race... lol
I am just pulling your chain, have fun with your comment back to me. PS: I am not a Kyle Fan (but enjoy reading his haters comments) so that wont be any fun for ya ;-)
Oak, I can understand your reply except your last sentence...PLEASE tell me you are referring to Kyle Petty?
Oh and BTW I love the King, BUT wonder how many championships todays drivers could accumulate racing the number of races they did back then? As for comparing the 24 to JR... that makes me laugh myself silly!! I dont cheer for anyone (except M. Martin) on the Hendricks team... so by no means is the rainbow warrior on my list of favorites.
Look, all plain and simple: JR hardly compares to any of the "top tier" drivers in todays NASCAR series! He needs to drive his own car in the NAtionwide Series..MAYBE then he can win another race!