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Hornady 300 grain XTP hollowpoint bullets?

HuntingandHarleys said:
ewc said:
HuntingandHarleys said:
Here is what I shoot in my Knight MK-85.

Stay on topic. OP asked about the xtp - not Barnes.

Sorry about that, I forget some people have a one track mind and can only discuss one bullet at a time. Was just throwing out a suggestion other than the Hornady to see if he was interested. Sorry to get off topic and confuse you (Keeper of the Muzzleloading Forum) or anyone else.


:) :)
 
on the left 250gr hornady hp/xtp pistol bullet .452.
on the right 300gr hornady rifle bullet .458 both are 45 cal with the black crushed rib.
the one on the right to use on big game.
the one on the left used at the range.
so why would you use a pistol bullet on big game? mmmmm
and yes i was bored and took pic of my bullets.


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Why would I use a pistol bullet on big game you asked? Because they did the job they were bought for. Timberjack, stik and I kill deer very well with this bullet. How many deer have been killed with a .44 mag ruger rifle?
 
True there is no better bullet. I love there expansion on game. I have never lost a deer useing xtp Knock on wood lol ;) I only have one problem with the xtp. I cant get good accuracy past 150yrds. But thats no big deal. Cause how many shots are you going to get past 150yrds on the plateua. I would like to have a long range bullet that would preform like the xtp but I do not think they exist. Everyone I have tried does not expand well. Even with 150 magnum loads. So the xtp, IMO is the best muzzleloader bullet out there ;)
 
ewc said:
scn said:
I've used the Hornady XTP 240 gr with 100 gr of FFg or 777 to kill a couple of truckloads of deer. Most were dead in their tracks and I never lost a deer with those bullets.

x2. However, I don't think my limit has ever been a truckload ( :D ). You must have connections...

My experience was about the same with 777 and pyrodex- a pile of dead deer (over the years). When I started with the Savage, I pushed that bullet hard.

So, take the following FWIW-

A GREAT bullet at medium velocity. My only suggestion is to keep them between 1,500 and 1,700 IMPACT velocity. Push them to 2,300+ and you'll see a volleyball-sized impact hole and no exit.

A great bullet when one considers design parameters...
He has got connections HE'S WITH TWRA :D :D
 
I use a 350gr Hornady FPB with 80 grains of Blackhorn 209 and a magnum shotshell primer. Will shoot 1 MOA at 100 yards and killed two deer last year at 40 and 65 yards. Dropped both dead in their tracks.

I hate to track deer!!!

Just a suggestion, don't shoot a deer anywhere that you would like to be able to keep the meat. This bullet will blow a massive exit hole. Exit wound will be approx 3" diameter. Bones don't slow this bullet down much, from what I can tell.
 
I use the XTP 250 HP and the 300 HP. I do not recommend the MAG version as they have been tried in many MLs and are not as reliably accurate. Some have used them and get great results but they are the exception not the majority. The 300 will leave you a blood trail like you won't believe if they don't drop on the spot. Will work for lung or shoulder shots and stay together 99% of the time.

Do not push the 250s past 2200 fps if your closer than 50 yards if you want it to stay together. I've had more than 1/3 fail and have switched to the 300gr as they seem a bit tougher. You should practice with the 250s though as they are nearly half the price as the 300s. 250 gr box should be around $22 for 100 and the 300gr are $15 for 50 so you will save 8 bucks by practicing with the 250s. At current prices that means your bullet sabot combo will cost you about 35 cents. Compare that to the Shockwaves and those will cost you a buck or better every time you pull the trigger.
 
My son uses the smaller weight (240 or 250 I can;t remember) and I use the 300 XTP Mag. Mine have been 100% passthroughs, good, short blood trails. My son had one that he had to take a second shot, but that was a longer-range shot with less than optimal shot placement. I don't blame the bullet on that one, but I have no plans to switch away from my 300 mags.
 
I switched from the 240s to the 300s this year in my CVA Accura. I think the 240s were almost as long as they were around and began to tumble when shot out of my previous gun a Knight with a fairly short barrel. The 300s are very stable and deadly accurate !
 
ewc said:
John-

Hornady make a .44 caliber (.430) 240gr xtp. These would need the green sabot to be shot out of a .50 mz.

They also make .45 xtp in 250gr and 300gr.

The xtp mag is offered in .45 caliber in weights of 240 and 300 grains.

http://www.hornady.com/store/XTP-XTP-MAG/?page=3

http://www.hornady.com/store/XTP-XTP-MAG/?page=4

I have shot the xtp's for years with excellent results.
My first MZ (cva) LOVED the .44 240gr xtp mag in the green sabot. Grouped very well and deer dropped like hit by lightening.

Started hog hunting in FL and the 240gr didn't always exit. Good pentration and expansion but not always an exit so I started playing around with the .45 300gr xtp mag. Groups opened up to 2" at 100 yds but still good shooting.

Got a new mz which HATES the 240gr xtp's (9" groups@100yd) LOVES the 300 gr xtp in the black crush rib sabot.

I have found that the 300 gr xtp MAG hits em like a BIG hammer. 24 yards is the most a deer has made it after being shot with the 300 gr XTP MAG.

Tried the 300gr xtp (non mag) and it put a BIG hole in the deer and exited 3/5 shots. BIG blood trails but every deer ran 30-120 yds.

The plain xtp has a deeper hollow point and a thinner jacket for velocities up to 1200fps.

The xtp MAG has a shallower hollow point and a thicker jacket for velocities from 900fps up to 1800+ fps.
 

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