How many more chances does CBJ get??

[THEdonkey0515]

Yes I know CBJ took over a very very very very bad UT program.

But here we are in year 3! Two top 7 draft classes later, And unless a miracle happens gonna go 2-5 which is HORRIBLY BAD!!

Had a 17pt lead against Oklahoma. Worst blown lead in NEYLAND EVER! awful play calling.

Go to the swamp had 13pt lead in the 4th. Blew it,what kinda SEC coach kicks an extra pt. When only up by 12 in the 4th?? Go for 2 CBJ you little chart says GO FOR TWO!

Had a 14pt lead against Arkansas once again at HOME. Blew it wow. This was a 1-3 team who had lost to Toledo.

Cbj record at UT 14-16 (will be 14-18 in couple weeks)
Salary 3.6 Million.

I will support CBJ as long as his the vol coach.

But dang this is getting old. It's impossible to look at them 3 games the vols had DOUBLE DIGIT leads in. And not say the coach/staff played HUGE parts in all 3 losses.

Not saying a coaching change will improve UT, or be the best thing to do at the moment. But cbj still has not proved he can coach in the SEC how many more chances does he get? To prove he belongs?

 

[mtn cur]

It's pretty bad. But how can they pay the buyout?
$10 mil 2015
$8 mil 2016
$6 mil 2017


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[THEdonkey0515]

It's pretty bad. But how can they pay the buyout?
$10 mil 2015
$8 mil 2016
$6 mil 2017


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that really may be the only thing that keeps cbj at tennessee.

Wins over a Down south Carolina team, vandy, and Kentucky is not gonna cut it this year.

Heck I don't even know if they will beat Kentucky :shock:

 

[huntinkev]

It's pretty bad. But how can they pay the buyout?
$10 mil 2015
$8 mil 2016
$6 mil 2017


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This is why hart should be fired too! Unbelievable the extension he got for year for winning a bowl game.

 

[TreyB]

He isn't going anywhere bcse of the buyout. If it wasn't so high he may be gone after this year.

 

[wayne]

Til the end of the contract. Vol fans were praising Hart for having a buyout so CBJ couldn't leave like Kiffin, now they're cussing I'm for it.

 

[redblood]

Til the end of the contract. Vol fans were praising Hart for having a buyout so CBJ couldn't leave like Kiffin, now they're cussing I'm for it.

i see he gets one more year, just because of the contract. he has to make a qb change. immediately!! give the fans and receivers at least a glimmer of hope. next man up.

 

[THEdonkey0515]

Til the end of the contract. Vol fans were praising Hart for having a buyout so CBJ couldn't leave like Kiffin, now they're cussing I'm for it.

i see he gets one more year, just because of the contract. he has to make a qb change. immediately!! give the fans and receivers at least a glimmer of hope. next man up.

I agree with the QB change.

 

[Gravey]

I've always said you've got to give a coach 4 years of recruiting before making a call. That said with the classes and talent they've brought in they should be 5-0 right now instead of staring 2-5 in the face. Blowing leads like they have is inexcusable. One maybe but not three. Yes there have been some coaching missteps but the players still have to execute whatever is called.

 

[TreyB]

I said after the OK game that QD should start being sprinkled in. And after a few games go with the hot hand.

 

[gator-n-buck]

He's not going anywhere with a 10 million buy-out....

 

[smalljawbasser]

Why the heck would he make a QB change? The guy made plenty of throws to beat Arkansas. Some of those passes couldn't have been any better if #16 was throwing them.

Fact is, our defense isn't able to stop anybody, or we beat Oklahoma and Florida. and the head coach doesn't have enough sense to go for two with a 12 point lead. As far as I'm concerned, Dobbs, Hurd, and Kamara are all we have.

If a QB gets you 17 point leads against Oklahoma (who throttled WVU Saturday), and UF in the swamp (who just beat OLE Miss, who won AT Alabama), (14 point lead against Arkansas), what more would you have them do?

We've got a poor secondary, poor linebackers, and poor defensive line. Yet people continue to beat on the OC and the QB. I'm not saying they are a juggernaut, but the losses are not their fault.

As far as the coach, it's a tight spot for sure. If I'm Hart, I call him in for a chat. I let him know that there will be no raises or contract extensions until he learns how to win in the SEC. If he hasn't figured it out by the end of next year, I make a coaching change. If you fire him, without hiring a proven coach, we're right back where we started.

successful head coaches (without baggage) do not grow on trees, and they are VERY expensive. If I have an employee who is loyal, has work ethic, and has good job skills, but lacks other job skills, I don't fire him. I train him. Then, if it still doesn't work out you fire him.

I realize everybody is disappointed in butch, but it's not like there is a magic coaching tree you can just go pick from.

 

[Anonymous]

If Butch needs a sit down to know no contract extensions or raises by now the Vo11s are in worse shape than I thought.

 

[Scioto]

Why the heck would he make a QB change? The guy made plenty of throws to beat Arkansas. Some of those passes couldn't have been any better if #16 was throwing them.

Fact is, our defense isn't able to stop anybody, or we beat Oklahoma and Florida. and the head coach doesn't have enough sense to go for two with a 12 point lead. As far as I'm concerned, Dobbs, Hurd, and Kamara are all we have.

If a QB gets you 17 point leads against Oklahoma (who throttled WVU Saturday), and UF in the swamp (who just beat OLE Miss, who won AT Alabama), (14 point lead against Arkansas), what more would you have them do?

We've got a poor secondary, poor linebackers, and poor defensive line. Yet people continue to beat on the OC and the QB. I'm not saying they are a juggernaut, but the losses are not their fault.

As far as the coach, it's a tight spot for sure. If I'm Hart, I call him in for a chat. I let him know that there will be no raises or contract extensions until he learns how to win in the SEC. If he hasn't figured it out by the end of next year, I make a coaching change. If you fire him, without hiring a proven coach, we're right back where we started.

successful head coaches (without baggage) do not grow on trees, and they are VERY expensive. If I have an employee who is loyal, has work ethic, and has good job skills, but lacks other job skills, I don't fire him. I train him. Then, if it still doesn't work out you fire him.

I realize everybody is disappointed in butch, but it's not like there is a magic coaching tree you can just go pick from.

Very sensible. Obviously not a Vols fan, but I thought the D was going to be the strength of the Vols. You are right. The O and the much maligned before the season O line has built double digit leads in all 3 losses, but the D is a big disappointment. Another 4th down conversion last night! Still the melting away of those early leads also suggests an inability of the coaching staff to make good in-game/half time adjustments on the offense. The Vols can't regain the momentum on offense after the other team adjusts to UT's original game plan.

Nothing much Vols fans can do except hunker down with the coaches that brung ya. Hope they figure out some fixes and have faith that your schedule is front loaded and after these next two games Butch and the team will be looking downhill against the teams he's been able to beat.

 

[redblood]

Why the heck would he make a QB change? The guy made plenty of throws to beat Arkansas. Some of those passes couldn't have been any better if #16 was throwing them.

Fact is, our defense isn't able to stop anybody, or we beat Oklahoma and Florida. and the head coach doesn't have enough sense to go for two with a 12 point lead. As far as I'm concerned, Dobbs, Hurd, and Kamara are all we have.

If a QB gets you 17 point leads against Oklahoma (who throttled WVU Saturday), and UF in the swamp (who just beat OLE Miss, who won AT Alabama), (14 point lead against Arkansas), what more would you have them do?

We've got a poor secondary, poor linebackers, and poor defensive line. Yet people continue to beat on the OC and the QB. I'm not saying they are a juggernaut, but the losses are not their fault.

As far as the coach, it's a tight spot for sure. If I'm Hart, I call him in for a chat. I let him know that there will be no raises or contract extensions until he learns how to win in the SEC. If he hasn't figured it out by the end of next year, I make a coaching change. If you fire him, without hiring a proven coach, we're right back where we started.

successful head coaches (without baggage) do not grow on trees, and they are VERY expensive. If I have an employee who is loyal, has work ethic, and has good job skills, but lacks other job skills, I don't fire him. I train him. Then, if it still doesn't work out you fire him.

I realize everybody is disappointed in butch, but it's not like there is a magic coaching tree you can just go pick from.

dobbs can't throw outside the numbers. this allows the defense to stack the middle and stop the run. dormady has the arm and quick release to keep the secondary honest

 

[gobblegrunt]

I think most of the problems on offense starts with the o-line.. just my opinion. When Dobbs drops back he has no time at all to throw the ball and go through his reads. I mean it's pretty obvious. But when it comes down to it the entire team needs to improve and do their part. It is a TEAM sport, not individual. Coach Jones needs to figure something out for sure on offense. After the first few possessions the offense is stagnant. Our offense looked better last season without this new o - coordinator.

 

[wayne]

The D is thin, runs out of gas in the 2nd half.
Losing Maggit hurt more than expected.
The O-line still not good enough.
Secondary stinks on ice.
Zero offensive halftime adjustments.

 

[baddnole]

I think Butch Jones should get at least 4 years to implement his system and players totally. If not marked improvement by year 4 end ,then call for his head. JMO

 

[mtn cur]

I say give him 10 years[emoji16]


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[PalsPal]

It ALL goes back to the OLine.

The FG instead of going for TD in the OK game, not going for two against UF, Dobb's throwing problems, the conservative play-calling, the D getting gassed in the 4th QTR, etc.! All of it can be laid at the feet of poor OLine play. Butch doesn't trust them. DeBord doesn't trust them. And Dobb's doesn't trust them. Hard to go through progressions when he has to keep his head on a swivel to see where the pressure is coming from. Hard to hit an open WR (the few chances that happens) when a DLineman is bearing down on you and make you rush the throw.

It is what it is.

The difference in the Arky game is the better team won. We were flat whipped. With that said, Williams turnover inside the 10 or whatever, was a killer. And I have no idea why Dobbs suddenly reverted back to his pre-Gator game self and stopped running. There were several opportunities for big gains had he kept on the zone read instead of giving to the TB.

Oh well. Butch will get two more years, and we will just have to live with it. DeBord needs to go. It will be interesting to see what happens with the assistant coaches after the season.