I have several Decoy Questions

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Ok you professionals out there :)
As you already know opening day is coming soon. What we have is a hen, jake, and a strutter gobbler decoy.
1)Would we be alright setting out all three of our different decoys together ?
2)If we do set all three decoys out then how far apart do you like to space them since we have just these three ?
3)Also is setting them about 15 to 20 yards from our blind ok ?
Thanks for any help.
 
I'm no professional but I'll answer anyway.

1) Yes
2) I don't think it matters but I would put them where they can be seen from different angles/areas.
3)I typically put mine 30 yards from the blind. Far enough to draw attention away from the blind but close enough that if he hangs up 10 yards outside the decoy he's still in range.

Two things to consider about a strutting decoy:
SAFETY FIRST if there are other hunters on your place!

Gobblers don't always come running like they do on tv. Sub dominant birds that have been whipped by the boss might shy away. I've had mixed reactions. On more than one occasion I had birds stay 100 yards away and never come in. Had I not had a strutter out I might've killed him.
 
I took my $79 strutter out once a few years ago. I had a group of birds coming in pretty hot and heavy. When the lead strutter of the group saw my strutter decoy, he bolted out of there so fast. I've never had that decoy out since then. That could have been just my luck but I doubt I'll try it again.
 
I would leave all of them at the house to. but if I did hunt over them I would leave the strutter at the house always. the jake and hen can help . but ive seen a lot of birds not killed because of decoys and especially with struttin decoys. but that's just me and what I have seen over the years.
 
Wow so many different opinions. I guess we might try with just the jake and hen.
We are newbies and we killed 3 last year with the jake and hen so I thought we were doing good.
Our decoys were about 20 yards but I didnt know if that was the normal.
Thanks for the help.
 
Spurhunter said:
deerhunter10 said:
but ive seen a lot of birds not killed because of decoys

Personally I've never seen turkey react negatively to a hen decoy but I hear the anti-decoy bunch talk about it. I haven't observed it.

ive seen a few henned up birds react very negative to hen decoys. but I have seen hen and jake decoys work. I would just personally leave the stutter at the house. I also think if you are going to have decoys spend the money and get some good ones. im not anti decoy at all. imo for most people though it seem to hurt more then what people think though. but what ever floats your boat. I personally don't use them though.
 
I'd leave them at the house and not bind myself to being in a blind. Decoys are not mandatory for killing turkeys despite the new decoy rage nationwide, same goes for blinds.
 
Setterman said:
I'd leave them at the house and not bind myself to being blind. Decoys are not mandatory for killing turkeys despite the new decoy rage nationwide, same goes for blinds.

I guess you didn't see the part about his son hunting with him. Everyone doesn't hunt alone and run and gun. Some of us hunt with our kids. A blind is THE best way to get a kid out hunting and have some success.
 
Spurhunter said:
Setterman said:
I'd leave them at the house and not bind myself to being blind. Decoys are not mandatory for killing turkeys despite the new decoy rage nationwide, same goes for blinds.

I guess you didn't see the part about his son hunting with him. Everyone doesn't hunt alone and run and gun. Some of us hunt with our kids. A blind is THE best way to get a kid out hunting and have some success.

I take kids every year and have watched them shoot a ton of long beards with no blinds or decoys.

Therefore I don't view a kid hunting as a mandatory situation for decoys or blinds.

But that's just me. I only voiced an opinion based on personal experience.
 
Overall, I'd rate decoys at about as much benefit as detriment, meaning they often cause you not to get the bird, and they often help you get the bird.

One thing I've not seen others mention, but this can be a really big negative regarding decoys:

Your being seen putting them out, or moving them. Many hunters are simply seen placing their decoys, and never realize their act of putting out decoys ruined an opportunity.

I've progressively used them less, mainly when hunting a small place, and can get them out before it's light enough to see.
 
Setterman said:
I take kids every year and have watched them shoot a ton of long beard with no blinds or decoys.

Therefore I don't view a kid hunting as a mandatory situation for decoys or blinds.

There can only be one Turkey Whisperer. Most of us are mere mortals. I never seem to find places overrun with kamikaze longbeards so I have to use what advantages I can.
 
One other thing I will add after watching hundreds of longbeards come into a set up, is that 9/10 birds come in and keep coming and would go past the shooter many times if no shot is fired. In other words, my experiences with birds that hang up out of range is limited every season, although it does happen once or twice each year, I seriously doubt decoys make things 100%.

Also, I am glad from a personal standpoint that the folks who took me under their wing as a kid taught me how to move on birds, how to set up in the woods, how to deal with field turkeys, how to not overcall a bird, how to take a birds "temperature", etc etc. All of those things helped make me the hunter I am today.

I'm not implying utilizing decoys and blinds eliminate those learning experiences, but there are valuable lessons learned from not automatically killing a bird or just sitting stationary waiting for one to wander by.

All of this is just my personal views and I'm not knocking anyones style, just stating what I feel helped me out and put me in the position I am in now.

I also feel (some may not like this) that too many fathers are hell bent on believing that the only successful hunt is one where their child kills a bird. I personally feel, some of the most successful hunts for kids are when they don't kill something and learn why it didn't work out and how it can be made to work out in the future. It's a culture of instant gratification that is being passed on to the kids anymore, and at times I wonder if that is for the best. If a kid is discouraged because they came up empty handed then life is going to be a serious wake up call as they navigate the neverending let downs and failures we all experience over the years.
 
Spurhunter said:
Setterman said:
I take kids every year and have watched them shoot a ton of long beard with no blinds or decoys.

Therefore I don't view a kid hunting as a mandatory situation for decoys or blinds.

There can only be one Turkey Whisperer. Most of us are mere mortals. I never seem to find places overrun with kamikaze longbeards so I have to use what advantages I can.

No reason to resort to personal attacks when another person just states their opinions and experiences.
 
Im not a fan of decoys personally and I don't think you really need them to be successful.

However i will say that with the new age of decoys such as the DSD and what not there is something to be said for them. The KEY imo if your gonna use them is you have to figure out a way to have movement in them if you are using them in an open field. I can't make myself spend that kinda money on the good ones and further more I can't make myself carry them around all the time.

I have seen them work and i have seen them more often cause the hunt to fail. I personally don't really rely on them but in certain situations i can see them being beneficial
 
Setterman said:
Spurhunter said:
Setterman said:
I take kids every year and have watched them shoot a ton of long beard with no blinds or decoys.

Therefore I don't view a kid hunting as a mandatory situation for decoys or blinds.

There can only be one Turkey Whisperer. Most of us are mere mortals. I never seem to find places overrun with kamikaze longbeards so I have to use what advantages I can.

No reason to resort to personal attacks when another person just states their opinions and experiences.

No personal attack. If everything you say is true, and I have no reason to doubt you, you are one of the best ever. All of us are not as skilled and probably don't have the places to hunt that you do. We have to do what we can to kill a few birds.
 

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