Jameis's accuser files federal suit against FSU.

[darn2ten]

Dang....poor girl. Will it ever end? :roll:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/f ... tml#page=1

 

[baddnole]

Dang....poor girl. Will it ever end? :roll:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/f ... tml#page=1

She keeps trying even though every organization,Police dept.,St Attorney and Judge keeps dismissing her claims.She and her attorneys keep lying and changing their stories and this is her last attempt to try and get money. She tried extorsion and that didnt work either. Now she claims she was kidnaped. She needs to go back to her trailer park and get on with her life.

 

[darn2ten]

I especially like this part.

"Had FSU . . . instead complied with its own policies and federal law by promptly investigating plaintiff's rape and sanctioning Winston while protecting plaintiff's safety, Winston would have been removed as a threat to plaintiff long before ever suiting up to play football in a Seminoles jersey, and plaintiff would be on campus progressing toward an FSU degree," the complaint stated. "Instead, plaintiff was forced to leave campus while Winston remains, having suffered no consequences."

Point is all this handled wrong in the first place wether he's guilty or not. All FSU could think about was covering for their boy. Seems there was also another girl that after a encounter with Jameis didn't exactly call it "rape", but felt violated and had to seek consuling? It's obvious this whole case wasn't handled right from the start. Here's another link that explains it pretty good.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014 ... .html?_r=0

 

[Jcalder]

Didn't it take several months before they investigated. I'd say after all that time any physical evidence would be healed. Then it becomes his word vs hers.


Big or small, kill em all

 

[darn2ten]

Didn't it take several months before they investigated. I'd say after all that time any physical evidence would be healed. Then it becomes his word vs hers.


Big or small, kill em all

Yes, read that 2nd link. Explains how sloppy it was handled.

 

[redblood]

I love her persistence and she is very smart. she knows she will never get justice within a 200 miles of felon state U, but she is waging her vengeance very effectively. every time his name comes up- playoff, declaring for the draft etc, she makes another headline that brings back up the rape. you can count on another round of legal postering before the combine and the draft. The words Winston and Rape are quickly becoming synonamous.

 

[baddnole]

When the girl Treon raped and they can't take her scholarship away we will see if she files a rape charge.If he is not in jail by that time. Please, a Gator talking about rape! At least she got that Gator Booster payoff.
"every time his name comes up- playoff, declaring for the draft etc, she makes another headline that brings back up the rape. you can count on another round of legal postering before the combine and the draft."

First true thing you have posted redblood

 

[baddnole]

I especially like this part.

"Had FSU . . . instead complied with its own policies and federal law by promptly investigating plaintiff's rape and sanctioning Winston while protecting plaintiff's safety, Winston would have been removed as a threat to plaintiff long before ever suiting up to play football in a Seminoles jersey, and plaintiff would be on campus progressing toward an FSU degree," the complaint stated. "Instead, plaintiff was forced to leave campus while Winston remains, having suffered no consequences."

Point is all this handled wrong in the first place wether he's guilty or not. All FSU could think about was covering for their boy. Seems there was also another girl that after a encounter with Jameis didn't exactly call it "rape", but felt violated and had to seek consuling? It's obvious this whole case wasn't handled right from the start. Here's another link that explains it pretty good.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014 ... .html?_r=0

When does Treon's title 9 case start?Does UF have a COC hearing? Is Tebow going to be called in the Hernandez trial.Did Elijah Williams finally pay off his accuser from the rape charge? Dont throw rocks.

 

[baddnole]

I especially like this part.

"Had FSU . . . instead complied with its own policies and federal law by promptly investigating plaintiff's rape and sanctioning Winston while protecting plaintiff's safety, Winston would have been removed as a threat to plaintiff long before ever suiting up to play football in a Seminoles jersey, and plaintiff would be on campus progressing toward an FSU degree," the complaint stated. "Instead, plaintiff was forced to leave campus while Winston remains, having suffered no consequences."

Point is all this handled wrong in the first place wether he's guilty or not. All FSU could think about was covering for their boy. Seems there was also another girl that after a encounter with Jameis didn't exactly call it "rape", but felt violated and had to seek consuling? It's obvious this whole case wasn't handled right from the start. Here's another link that explains it pretty good.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014 ... .html?_r=0

Why did this girl,Erica, at the Clemson game text to Marcus Jordon,yep Michaels Boy, how good her QB was. Thats in the papers also.

When does Treon's title 9 case start?Does UF have a COC hearing? Is Tebow going to be called in the Hernandez trial.Did Elijah Williams finally pay off his accuser from the rape charge? Dont throw rocks.

 

[baddnole]

Didn't it take several months before they investigated. I'd say after all that time any physical evidence would be healed. Then it becomes his word vs hers.


Big or small, kill em all

Yes, read that 2nd link. Explains how sloppy it was handled.

http://www.inquisitr.com/1532187/victim ... -campaign/
The report, including the police's interview with Treon Harris, sheds some new light on the case including a possible threat made to the victim by Treon Harris the day after she says he raped her in his dorm room. "Don't tell nobody bout nothing," was Harris's alleged warning to her. In a police interview, Treon Harris claimed that he was warning her not to tell anyone because he claimed he did want the woman that he was involved with to know about their encounter.
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/1557048/police ... 5dKM85p.99
Treon Harris seems more concerned with whether or not the story will be covered by ESPN than with the seriousness of the rape accusation, asking multiple times, "So is this going to be on ESPN and stuff?"
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/1557048/police ... 5dKM85p.99
http://deadspin.com/treon-harriss-lawye ... 1644342490
If we're being honest, we have to admit this: Treon Harris was probably going to have sex with someone on Saturday night.
After all, that's what lots of college students, of all genders, races, orientations, geographic locales, and ages, do on a Saturday night — and most college students aren't Harris, who led his team to a fourth-quarter comeback on the road. Sex, lots of sex, happens "in college," between college-aged people who can consent to having it, and it isn't just happening on Saturday nights: It's happening on Wednesday mornings, and Monday afternoons, and it's happening a lot.
Sex is an activity that young people partake in, and often.
This is ground-breaking, I know.

 

[Jcalder]

So because he led his team to a fourth quarter comeback, and Winston who is a star, should be let off the hook? Are you one of the investigators trying to justify yourself for not sufficiently investigating the initial report? Your man crush on FSU in General is rather disturbing.


Big or small, kill em all

 

[baddnole]

Guess you are another who never read the reports from the 4 investigating groups or the Supreme Court Justice.ALL rapist should do time,doesnt matter if FSU,UF or Tenn.. Heck yes I love FSU and will defend them.I also respect law enforcement and the court system.Do you? Maybe only when it suits your purpose? :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: Love this guy doing the Chop

 

[mjac]

I especially like this part.

"Had FSU . . . instead complied with its own policies and federal law by promptly investigating plaintiff's rape and sanctioning Winston while protecting plaintiff's safety, Winston would have been removed as a threat to plaintiff long before ever suiting up to play football in a Seminoles jersey, and plaintiff would be on campus progressing toward an FSU degree," the complaint stated. "Instead, plaintiff was forced to leave campus while Winston remains, having suffered no consequences."

Point is all this handled wrong in the first place wether he's guilty or not. All FSU could think about was covering for their boy. Seems there was also another girl that after a encounter with Jameis didn't exactly call it "rape", but felt violated and had to seek consuling? It's obvious this whole case wasn't handled right from the start. Here's another link that explains it pretty good.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014 ... .html?_r=0

Thanks for posting the NYT link. It is a lousy link. The NYT has been notoriously misleading through this entire matter. They (NYT) are the ones who originally broke the story and quite naturally (these days) they are going to continue to slant/hype the story so the real facts won't make them look bad.

Here is another link written by someone else that apparently knows a thing or two about the timeline in this issue and has taken the time to put it in perspective. It is a long read because it contains links to the actual police reports, hospital records and independent investigator's reports. All this information is now available to the public. I wonder why the NYT will not include this information their story?

I challenge you read it and then consider the NYT version of the events. Or, will you continue to voice contempt prior to investigation?

http://chopchat.com/2014/12/24/heres-ne ... t-telling/

In the end, this girl (and her family/lawyers) will probably win the federal law suit against FSU She has tried to get into everyone else's pockets and failed. FSU's pockets are still open and deep. FSU just wants her to go away and will not fight the feds.

 

[darn2ten]

Yeah, I been waiting on that. You see there's a huge difference between you and me. I don't send all my time on here trying to defend Treon. If Treon did rape that girl, then he is scum and I have no time for that and he should be prosecuted. Also, the pure blatant way FSU has tried to cover for Jameis, even before there ever was a trial is just sick. You or me either one can control what goes on at any university, but the way you constantly get on here to defend the actions of one is questionable. Throwing rocks? Nope, just wondering why you defend him like you know 100% he did nothing or it would be a stretch that FSU covered anything up. And, IMO that's where a huge part of the problem lies that you keep wanting to overlook. This case was not handled right BEFORE it even went to trial. FSU did everything they could to cover for their star athlete not caring if he was guilty or not, because the most important thing to them was he suits up and hits the field. Do you really want to start dropping names to make yourself feel better? Then sticking Tebow's name in there, really? What's he got to do with any of the thugs. I mean of course you got Jameis, then there's Ira Denson - attempted murder, Gregory Dent- sexual assault, Jesus Wilson - grand theft, Karlos Williams - domestic assault, and Dalvin Cook - assault. That's just in the last few years in the FSU football program.

 

[darn2ten]

I especially like this part.

"Had FSU . . . instead complied with its own policies and federal law by promptly investigating plaintiff's rape and sanctioning Winston while protecting plaintiff's safety, Winston would have been removed as a threat to plaintiff long before ever suiting up to play football in a Seminoles jersey, and plaintiff would be on campus progressing toward an FSU degree," the complaint stated. "Instead, plaintiff was forced to leave campus while Winston remains, having suffered no consequences."

Point is all this handled wrong in the first place wether he's guilty or not. All FSU could think about was covering for their boy. Seems there was also another girl that after a encounter with Jameis didn't exactly call it "rape", but felt violated and had to seek consuling? It's obvious this whole case wasn't handled right from the start. Here's another link that explains it pretty good.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014 ... .html?_r=0

Thanks for posting the NYT link. It is a lousy link. The NYT has been notoriously misleading through this entire matter. They (NYT) are the ones who originally broke the story and quite naturally (these days) they are going to continue to slant/hype the story so the real facts won't make them look bad.

Here is another link written by someone else that apparently knows a thing or two about the timeline in this issue and has taken the time to put it in perspective. It is a long read because it contains links to the actual police reports, hospital records and independent investigator's reports. All this information is now available to the public. I wonder why the NYT will not include this information their story?

I challenge you read it and then consider the NYT version of the events. Or, will you continue to voice contempt prior to investigation?

http://chopchat.com/2014/12/24/heres-ne ... t-telling/

In the end, this girl (and her family/lawyers) will probably win the federal law suit against FSU She has tried to get into everyone else's pockets and failed. FSU's pockets are still open and deep. FSU just wants her to go away and will not fight the feds.

Man, really? A piece wrote on Chopchat, a FSU football site. What did you really think it was going to say? Wrote by a FSU fan boy who still has to admit the investigation was botched and FSU was tipped off by the TPD and got a jump on the whole thing. I also reckon that the writer, Patrick Nohe doesn't fall far from the FSU trouble tree either.


Patrick M Nohe's Arrest Record Details
Official government public records show that Patrick M Nohe was booked into jail on Sunday, April 11, 2010 in Leon County, Florida.

 

[BranchWater]

 

[mjac]

Man, really? A piece wrote on Chopchat, a FSU football site. What did you really think it was going to say? Wrote by a FSU fan boy who still has to admit the investigation was botched and FSU was tipped off by the TPD and got a jump on the whole thing. I also reckon that the writer, Patrick Nohe doesn't fall far from the FSU trouble tree either.


Patrick M Nohe's Arrest Record Details
Official government public records show that Patrick M Nohe was booked into jail on Sunday, April 11, 2010 in Leon County, Florida.

Judging from your reply, you did not chose to take my challenge to read Mr Nohe's article. Much less read any of the links he furnished. Had you read the article Mr Nohe said this: "Now I understand that's a bold claim, so I'm going to provide actual evidence rather than just ask you take me at my word. I don't have a masthead like 'New York Times' over my name to ensure people buy into my credibility– I'll do this the old-fashioned way."

Mr Nohe did do it in a old fashioned way. Unlike the NYT, he presented actual evidence. Something you are unaccustomed or unprepared to accept.

I see you instead posted a reference to Mr Nohe purported arrest, regardless of the offense, which you fail to mention, neither in which case has absolutely any bearing on this discussion.

There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance—that principle is contempt prior to investigation. —Herbert Spencer

 

[baddnole]

Man, really? A piece wrote on Chopchat, a FSU football site. What did you really think it was going to say? Wrote by a FSU fan boy who still has to admit the investigation was botched and FSU was tipped off by the TPD and got a jump on the whole thing. I also reckon that the writer, Patrick Nohe doesn't fall far from the FSU trouble tree either.


Patrick M Nohe's Arrest Record Details
Official government public records show that Patrick M Nohe was booked into jail on Sunday, April 11, 2010 in Leon County, Florida.

Judging from your reply, you did not chose to take my challenge to read Mr Nohe's article. Much less read any of the links he furnished. Had you read the article Mr Nohe said this: "Now I understand that's a bold claim, so I'm going to provide actual evidence rather than just ask you take me at my word. I don't have a masthead like 'New York Times' over my name to ensure people buy into my credibility– I'll do this the old-fashioned way."

Mr Nohe did do it in a old fashioned way. Unlike the NYT, he presented actual evidence. Something you are unaccustomed or unprepared to accept.

I see you instead posted a reference to Mr Nohe purported arrest, regardless of the offense, which you fail to mention, neither in which case has absolutely any bearing on this discussion.

There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance—that principle is contempt prior to investigation. —Herbert Spencer

mjac You might as well give up .For sure there are several who post on here who just have Seminole envy.do not read and do not comprehend what little they do read other than SEC and UF.You can post the same evidence over and over and they still dont understand,just whats in their mind planted by ESPN.I will just sit back and wait for Treon's next crime and wait for Tenn to take control over Florida again. SPIN that

 

[darn2ten]

I read it, and went back and read it again! My conclusion, that is a very biased piece wrote by a Tallahassee fan boy. Many of the links take you back to fan side or FSU sites as "evidence"...shocker! The author admits the investigation was not conducted properly, then spends time trying to give evidence that is was, lol. There are many more web sites with the opposite conclusion than there are this one. Are you seriously going to tell me this girl wasn't in fear, that she feared for her safety after exposing the star player. Yeah, I think that might have some bearing on some of her actions. Regardless, like I said before it shows FSU was more worried about covering for their star player and keeping him on the field than anything else. From the time this was reported until it went to trial, Winston faces no consequences and his accuser is drug threw the mud. While charges are pending what other university handles things in this manner? You've got your biased opinion because you a Seminole fan, and I ( and many others) have mine.

 

[darn2ten]

mjac You might as well give up .For sure there are several who post on here who just have Seminole envy.do not read and do not comprehend what little they do read other than SEC and UF.You can post the same evidence over and over and they still dont understand,just whats in their mind planted by ESPN.I will just sit back and wait for Treon's next crime and wait for Tenn to take control over Florida again. SPIN that

My goodness, what a stretch! I promise, there are many more sources than ESPN to get info from, and most is overwhelmingly against Winston.Tell you what, if Treon gets in anymore trouble my voice will be louder than yours that he should go. Once again, that's the difference between you and me. I have no use for idiots and thugs or the waist of time spent trying to defend them. I guess since your boy Jameis has declared for the draft you've decided to become a closet (bandwagon) Tennessee fan :lol: Spin that! Spin what? See, I'm not in denial like you. With all that's going on at Florida being in a rebuilding year Tennessee should win next year, I've said it before won't be a shocker to me.