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IF, a big IF ---

ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas.

If OSU beats the skunk weasels, and if Penn State beats MSU, if Okie State beats OU, if TCU beats Baylor, if Stanford beats ND, then OSU is playing Iowa the next weekend for the B1G championship and the 4th slot in the playoff.

Now I know that baddnole is more likely to shoot a trophy buck than is this scenario playing out, but which is more likely to occur I ask you?
 
OHVATN":1bnb056w said:
IF, a big IF ---

ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas.

If OSU beats the skunk weasels, and if Penn State beats MSU, if Okie State beats OU, if TCU beats Baylor, if Stanford beats ND, then OSU is playing Iowa the next weekend for the B1G championship and the 4th slot in the playoff.

Now I know that baddnole is more likely to shoot a trophy buck than is this scenario playing out, but which is more likely to occur I ask you?


Badnole needs to answer you before Saturday because he will be banned from the sports forums until Feb. :tu: :rotf:
 
OHVATN":2fmr7ae4 said:
IF, a big IF ---

ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas.

If OSU beats the skunk weasels, and if Penn State beats MSU, if Okie State beats OU, if TCU beats Baylor, if Stanford beats ND, then OSU is playing Iowa the next weekend for the B1G championship and the 4th slot in the playoff.

Now I know that baddnole is more likely to shoot a trophy buck than is this scenario playing out, but which is more likely to occur I ask you?

I got a lot of trophy bucks on the camera's----so----good luck :tu:
 
baddnole":2q4md1de said:
OHVATN":2q4md1de said:
IF, a big IF ---

ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas.

If OSU beats the skunk weasels, and if Penn State beats MSU, if Okie State beats OU, if TCU beats Baylor, if Stanford beats ND, then OSU is playing Iowa the next weekend for the B1G championship and the 4th slot in the playoff.

Now I know that baddnole is more likely to shoot a trophy buck than is this scenario playing out, but which is more likely to occur I ask you?

I got a lot of trophy bucks on the camera's----so----good luck :tu:


And how many on the ground?? That's like a Vermin moral victory of Clemson or a Vol fan saying they are really undefeated. :tu: :stir:
 
BamaProud":1h2vi05m said:
OHVATN":1h2vi05m said:
iowavf":1h2vi05m said:
I think I remember a few folks no a lot of folks saying the same thing last year about the Big 10 and how did that workout? From what I've seen teams are can be heroes or zeros depeding on how things happen during a game. Good thing they don't play games on paper anymore like they use to.

Bingo.

So called SoS has nothing to do with it. OSU didn't lose because they hadn't been tested in a supposed mean and nasty SEC football schedule. It's who is best - coached, schemed, and played - for that one game is what matters. That a team played teams (ranked by journalists for most of the season and most ranked teams (Auburn, Tennessee, Texas A&M anyone) are no longer ranked and their seasons have shown they never should have been, yet Alabama gets a feather in their cap because they played a bunch of overrated teams who happened to be inaccurately ranked (or ranked much higher) when they played them.

Funny thing is, SEC fans never bring up SoS when it's basketball season.

I don't follow basketball.

The football selection committee has made it clear that SOS highly influences their selections for the playoff...and their selection is not based on the polls put out by the journalists.

4 most important criteria:
Championships won
Strength of schedule
Head-to-head competition (if it occurred)
Comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incenting margin of victory)

http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/s ... e-protocol

I know. The only SEC fans who follow basketball are Kentucky fans and occasionally Vandy or Florida fans. By the way, Alabama got blown out by Dayton. I follow Ohio State basketball. Got beat by UT-Arlington so it's going to be a long year, but usually we can expect to challenge for the B1G title and a sweet 16 birth.

SoS can only be measured, if at all, at the end of the season. SoS is a canard. I wonder what quantitative analytics would say about SoS?

When did the CFP poll come out? I think it was 11/3 or around 8 weeks into the college football season. Do you really expect us to believe that the "Committee" was not influenced by the AP poll (which is, by definition, determined by journalists). AP poll helps set the table for the "Committee." Plus, no one can argue that preseason positioning via the AP poll certainly goes a long way in poll positioning as the first half to three fourths of the season plays out into the CFP poll. Otherwise, how could Iowa (or Oklahoma State for that matter until last weekend) now be ranked in the top 4 when they well back in the teens far behind Florida just just 3 weeks ago. I'm pretty sure both teams started the season unranked. Since that first CFP poll by the experts, Florida has eked out victories against Vandy and FAU while Iowa has continued to roll. Now the "Committee" will finally wake up? Memphis became their darling after 11/3 and the defeat of Ole Miss only to see Memphis lose three straight to the "lesser" AAC competition. It's called normalcy bias. Normally, Iowa would not be ranked in the top 10, let alone the top 4, but LSU, UGA, USC, Oregon, etc. would be. And, oh Memphis beat Ole Miss and beat them bad, well they must be the surprise team this year. Nope, don't think so.

I think the proof that SoS is a canard is the case of LSU. In the "Committee's" first poll, LSU was ranked #2. Ostensibly, one of the factors used by the "Committee" for ranking LSU that high was its alleged SoS. Yet, now three weeks later, LSU is unranked. Alabama benefited by LSU's high ranking. Alabama's supposed strong SoS is the result of playing and beating several teams that were ranked high (e.g., LSU, UGA) that are no longer ranked! If anything, Alabama's SoS simply proves that neither the "Committee" nor a group of journalists with AP credentials really know what they are doing.

You should follow basketball because that is a better system. Not a 64 team field for the college football CFP, but 8 teams. Conference champions and let the "Committee" pick the last 3 and do the seeding. Top 4 seeds get another home game (wouldn't that be something to see an SEC team other than Tennessee or LSU play outside the south for once and in December!)
 
OHVATN":94p276gg said:
AP poll helps set the table for the "Committee."

I think the proof that SoS is a canard is the case of LSU. In the "Committee's" first poll, LSU was ranked #2. Ostensibly, one of the factors used by the "Committee" for ranking LSU that high was its alleged SoS. Yet, now three weeks later, LSU is unranked. Alabama benefited by LSU's high ranking. Alabama's supposed strong SoS is the result of playing and beating several teams that were ranked high (e.g., LSU, UGA) that are no longer ranked! If anything, Alabama's SoS simply proves that neither the "Committee" nor a group of journalists with AP credentials really know what they are doing.


I don't think you understand Strength of Schedule. It isn't same thing as Strength of Record. Football Power Index is another stat they use to arrange their poll...but that is another discussion.
 

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